Needs Help: Artifact Title

Current uses an outdated logo; we should probably use the newer one.

Also, I think that we should include this screenshot to demonstrate that the name is outdated:

The previous thread voted to keep the current. Not really seeing a compelling reason to change unless there's a pretty solid suggestion. That screenshot doesn't have the bar with the current logo so it's kinda pointless to include.

I think the outdated logo actually helps here, in a sorta Visual Pun way.

The trope is more or less about outdated titles.

In any way, keep. There was already a vote (with a landslide victory even) and the new suggestion doesn't really improves much (especially with the hard-to-read wording). Feels like the logo would be hard to notice at a smaller size.

Edited by Drope on Mar 10th 2019 at 8:16:36 AM

The current pic is technically JAFAAC, but I'm fine with keeping it. This trope would be rather difficult to illustrate, and few people on this wiki don't know it's not just about television.

Keep current

Keep.

Note that this wiki used to have an older logo actually featuring television, see this◊ (and yes, I'm linking to THAT website, I couldn't upload it because it's too small).

Maybe we could use that old logo and the new logo as a comparison pic? Like even though the TV got removed from the logo, we still have TV in the title.

Edited by eroock on Mar 10th 2019 at 1:05:50 PM

Eh, the current's more to the point than OP or is.

I'm going with keep the current.

I dunno, the very outdated logo and site design, as well as the definition that can be read underneath, really nails how much the title is an artifact. I wouldn't mind the change.

Keep current.

keep current

The problem I have with the current (or any TV Tropes image) is that it assumes the user has been with TV Tropes long enough to know it was ever just television.

Basically, overlaps with Nonindicative Name.

I did say something about making a comparison pic, but I was seemingly ignored. Here's the best one I could make. Even though the TV is gone from the logo, we still have TV in the title, which I think counts for the trope.

Edited by Piterpicher on Mar 15th 2019 at 7:39:56 PM

Good. Note that the second logo is a bit outdated too; the current is more streamlined.

In terms of just comparing logos, the TV in the logo by itself doesn't really illustrate that the site used to focus exclusively on TV, nor does its absence illustrate that it's no longer TV-exclusive.

The current is fine, since even casual users of the site know that it includes more than just "TV" tropes. I do think we should use the new logo though, if only to make it easier to see in Night Vision:

I'm starting to lean in favor of that one, with or without the current logo.

Edited by Willbyr on Mar 18th 2019 at 11:59:40 AM

I guess there's enough suggestions to merit a crowner.

Please vote in the crowner here.

Thanks, it's hooked.

Seems to be missing a "keep current" option. I've added that option.

Bump for votes; right now nothing has a positive ratio.

I assume if all options are negative, even "keep current", it means people want to remove the image?

No, something has to be in consensus range in order to take action. If nothing has a positive ratio by a week or so, then the crowner and the thread have both pretty conclusively failed to do their jobs and both are usually closed.

Edited by Willbyr on Mar 28th 2019 at 1:03:34 PM

Could I suggest having a second crowner if this one fails?

I'd like a single proposition crowner for "pull current". See my post (13) for my justification.