The source code is all gone. Emulating anything from the triple processor nightmare that is the Sega Saturn is bad enough, but with the source code gone, they’re essentially starting from scratch. At least they’re doing the Rail Shooter games (never played them) and not the massive sprawling Panzer Dragoon Saga, which would probably be a nightmare to reproduce.
Edited by Beatman1 on Dec 11th 2018 at 10:07:21 AM
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I want to be hyped but we know nothing about this company.
Sega's been killing it with reviving their old franchises.
I never got to play any of the Panzer Dragoon games but they all look amazing so this'll be interesting provided the remakes are competent.
Now somebody just needs to bring back NiGHTS.
How about some Shining Force remakes? They did one on the GBA.
Health sure is versatile. It's possible to be both light-headed and dim-witted. At the same time, no less.
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Panzer dragoon orta is the best non Saga PZ game IMO and it has an emulated panzer dragoon 1 within it so that's probably your best bet for a classic-style panzer dragoon game.
That said, I'm making forward to seeing this track remastered. The True Final Boss of Zwei was really cool.
Actually, is it me or is SEGA taking a hands-off approach to (most of) these franchise revivals?
Check it out:
- Wonder Boy: The Dragon's Trap was developed by Lizardcube and published by DotEmu
- Shenmue III is being developed by Ys Net (founded by the original creator of Shenmue) and published by Deep Silver
- ToeJam & Earl: Back in the Groove is being developed (and published) by HumaNature Studios (founded by the creator of TJ&E)
And I almost thought these Panzer Dragoon games by Forever Entertainment wouldn't be published by SEGA, but maybe they are? I'm not against this, mind you, it's just kind of curious...
(And incidentally, it turns out "Zwei" is "Two" in German. Didn't know that until now.)
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Panzer dragoon orta is the best non Saga PZ game IMO and it has an emulated panzer dragoon 1 within it so that's probably your best bet for a classic-style panzer dragoon game.
Orta’s the one on the Xbox right
You're going to pay a price for every bloody thing you do and everything you don't do. You don't get to choose to not pay a price.
Yes.
Reminds me I need to play Saga. I found a ROM for it (something I won't apologize for given how few copies of it there are) so it's more a matter of finding the time.
I wonder how it holds up.
Edited by Larkmarn on Dec 13th 2018 at 9:41:06 AM
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Apparently Saturn emulation was dreadful for a while, but it's gotten a lot better recently.
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It has?
And a ROM might be the only way to play the damn thing. The source code is gone and there’s roughly 5,000 or so copies of it floating around, tops.
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But seriously, if this actually comes out it's a dream come true. My hopes were more pinned on a Saturn Classic than anything.
The Unknown
What's the difference between the source code and a ROM dump? Is there a bunch of extraneous data in the source code that's needed or something?
If a tree falls in the forest and nobody remembers it, who else will you have ice cream with?
Not-so short answer:
When a programmer writes a program, they write source code (typically human-readable text in a programming language). Then that code is run through a process (compiling) that creates a file that a computer can actually execute.
The process is not typically reversible. In theory code can be decompiled, but the result isn't human readable code, and often isn't identical in performance.
Because porting a program from one device to another will require compatibility updates, the source code is needed.
With an emulator, you reverse the process. "I can't make the program run on the new hardware - I don't have the source code. But I have the ability to write a middle-man program that will fake being the original intended hardware." - Emulation
This means that weird hardware setups (like the Saturn) are harder to emulate, hence why Saturn emulation is less advanced than things like the PS 2, which is closer to a PC in design.
Does that help?
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The Unknown
Yeah, that makes sense.
If a tree falls in the forest and nobody remembers it, who else will you have ice cream with?
It is possible, as I understand it, to reverse engineer at least part of the code, but with weird hardware like the Saturn that's probably harder.
I think Saga is mostly playable on emulators now, but that wasn't always the case.
Now that would be way more worth it than what Nintendo and Sony have done. Not many people owned a Saturn.
Edited by Draghinazzo on Dec 13th 2018 at 5:01:54 AM
Sega would have to make a fully functional Saturn emulator that ran on the Switch (or whatever else they want Saturn games on).
If Sega lost the code to the games, they likely don't have the exact hardware specs (which would have to be to the transistor level for 100% accuracy).
Sega would also have to defeat their own anti-piracy measures.
Sega's best bet really is to remake the games, as it would be less work than trying to emulate the hardware.
Health sure is versatile. It's possible to be both light-headed and dim-witted. At the same time, no less.
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Here's some off-screen gameplay footage for the upcoming Switch remakes via gamescom;
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Panzer Dragoon: Remake physical edition announced
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Panzer Dragoon: Remake Concept Art Shows Off Its Dragon, Enemies, and Rider
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Get an Even Closer Look at Panzer Dragoon Remake’s Enemies and World
And they've all been good games, so that's fine by me. Feels like some of the only good games coming out of the company are those Sega only has a peripheral hand in developing.
Edited by Hashil on Feb 3rd 2020 at 2:29:12 AM
I think Shenmue III is open for debate, but that aside, I don't think you're wrong.
What's next, though? Remakes of Crazy Taxi and the Jet Set Radio duology?
Edited by TargetmasterJoe on Feb 3rd 2020 at 4:50:28 AM
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Panzer Dragoon: Remake Game to Get Release on Stadia
Since I didn't see a thread specifically for this series,
http://www.siliconera.com/2018/12/10/panzer-dragoon-remake-and-panzer-dragoon-ii-zwei-remake-announced/
The first two Panzer Dragoon games will be receiving remakes! A company called Forever Entertainment is working with Sega on the remakes. The titles will be Panzer Dragoon: Remake and Panzer Dragoon II Zwei: Remake. The only details revealed so far include updated graphics, features to make them appealing for modern gamers, and the one with a general release date is the first game, which is by the end of next year.
While I was never able to play any of the games before, they do sound they would at least be interesting to play. Any thoughts about this news?