Super Smash Bros Ultimate (SPOILER Thread)

Bandai Namco still own Xenosaga, though.

KOS-MOS is probably the third-most suggested Bamco rep I've seen after Lloyd/Yuri and Heihachi.

Yes but considering Kos-Mos and Telos are in Xenoblade 2 I'm pretty sure the rights to those do fall under Monolith Soft's jurisdiction, not Namco's.

Nope. It was a collab.

And was it also like that for both Endless Frontier games?

Pretty sure Bamco is even in the copyright on the title screen.

Xenosaga characters are owned by Bandai Namco. Take a look at their Xenoblade 2 arts. They say (C) BANDAI NAMCO.

Monolith Soft doesn't own anything. They merely work for Nintendo.

Edited by RAlexa21th on Sep 10th 2019 at 7:30:30 AM

It's a deepish cut, but my choice for second Namco rep is Valkyrie.

Anyway given the lack of women in the Pass thus far I think KOS-MOS might have a chance as the Namco rep.

Gotta say, with the way every single newcomer in this game has gone... don't get your hopes up.

We got half a female fighter out of 4.

In an unlikely event we get female Terry, that bumps it to 1 out of 4.

Edited by RAlexa21th on Sep 10th 2019 at 8:05:33 AM

I'm thinking of how a big company might consider its brand. Ten DLC characters and no women seems weird for a series that's included multiple female fighters per game (sans Brawl).

What if Lara Croft is one of the DLC characters? Unlikely, given that Tomb Raider is a Square-Enix property, but she's one of the most famous and popular female video game heroes.

If she gets in, I hope it's the smirking, amoral she-douche of the PSX era and not the modern, more nuanced Lara.

I personally doubt the fifth Season 1 DLC character will share the same company with any of the other 4.

The inherent problem with adding female characters is that most of them aren't from the "nostalgic" NES-N64 era that Sakurai seems to be primarily drawing from...

Yeah if we get any company repeats cough Geno uncough then it'll be in the second wave of DLC.

I'm trying to recall the most relevant "nostalgic" female main characters.

NES era: SNK's Athena.

SNES era: FFVI Terra. Nakoruru (oof).

N64 era: Lara Croft, Joanna Dark, Jill Valentine.

There's also Sakura.

That said, I don't really think they're strictly keeping it to that era. Primarily, sure, but not exclusively.

Of course. The first Season 1 boy is current gen.

Depending how you consider Hero, he is also current gen.

Both franchises start out at the NES, though (N64 era if you are stingy with Persona).

Edited by RAlexa21th on Sep 10th 2019 at 8:46:07 AM

Reimu did get her start in the late 90's, albeit, the Touhou franchise isn't particularly well known for the PC-98 era.

I guess a Puyo Puyo character would also qualify?

That would make her the third Sakura in this game.

We all know best Sakura is Sakurai.

No, Sakurai is the bestest Sakura.

Look, the majority of the newcomers are characters who were big deals back during that "nostalgic era" before the turn of the century... the rest are all post-2012 characters who the franchises obviously want to push.

(Or potentially in the case of Incineroar, was chosen based on an idea Sakurai had of the character in his head, and then was chosen as a marketing vehicle based on that.)

Yeah but like, that's only true until it isn't.

There were no N64 newcomers in Ultimate until there suddenly was.

That is true, but if we disregard any sort of obvious pattern that exists just because it -could- change with the next reveal feels like setting yourself up for further disappointment.