We've just pushed a large overhaul public. Please report complaints, comments and concerns here. When reporting bugs, please make sure you include which browser(s) and platform(s) you have encountered the issue with.
Answers to Frequently Asked Questions
- Why did we do this? This update has been in development for over a year. It replaces a vast amount of messy code on the back-end, gives us a new modernized design, updates us to https, and creates a platform that we can more easily build on for future updates.
- Can we go back to the old design? This isn't happening. We'll make the new one work.
- Why are there so many bugs? As with any major overhaul, some problems will occur. The developers are working full-time on fixing stuff.
Frequently Reported Issues
This isn't everything, just the most common problems.Status Values
- Being logged in as someone else, sort of. [FIXED]
- Where'd the "Folders Open" toggle go? Not a bug, it's in your profile.
- Multiple issues with the new site search feature. [Logged]
- No sorting options.
- Forum poster search is gone. [FIXED]
- Can't search specifically by thread title, making results unhelpful.
- Pagination doesn't work correctly — the last page displays as if there were no search results.
- Line breaks don't work in some areas. (Ask The Tropers, Trope Launch Pad, forum previews) [Patched]
- ATT, TLP, forum previews fixed. Some more line breaking issues were identified and are being worked on.
- The Cut List does not work.
- Cannot approve or deny requests. [FIXED]
- Line breaks don't work. [FIXED]
- Cut request reasons don't appear. [FIXED]
- Additional cutlist issues noted here
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- Note, subscript, and superscript formatting are broken in various places. [FIXED]
- Night vision has significant readability problems. [Patched]
- Namespace index is broken. [Logged]
- Articles may become locked when edited, or when backing out of editing without clicking Cancel. Moderators can remove the locks but can't fix the underlying problem. [Patched]
- Remaining issue: the lock system still doesn't distinguish between an article that's locked and one that's checked out for editing.
- Edits won't save when "<" or ">" characters are present in the markup. [Patched]
- HTML detection was disabled for the time being. We're working on a more robust system.
- Edits won't save when the [norreallife] tag is present in the markup. [FIXED]
- Redirects are broken. [Patched]
- This is at least partially fixed. We need to know if there are any remaining problems.
- Indexing is broken. [In Progress]
- Images on wiki articles are rendered smaller than in the previous design. [Patched]
- Resizing images with [quoteright] tags is still broken.
- The "Following" list (formerly called the Watchlist) doesn't distinguish visually between viewed and unviewed articles. [In Progress]
- Custom titles are no longer appearing in all places where they should. [FIXED]
- In-line icons for Flame Bait, Trivia, and YMMV wicks are intended, but sometimes overlap preceding text. [Patched]
- Trivia icons should not appear in-line. (Design issue, logged)
- In second-level bullets, icons overlap preceding text. [Logged]
- The [invoked] tag no longer suppresses the aforementioned icons. [Logged]
- [quoteblock] markup causes everything inside to appear italic and squashed together. [FIXED]
- Line breaking for external links doesn't work correctly. [FIXED]
- Post numbering is no longer visible, although you can retrieve it from the hard-link. [Logged]
- "Delete all posts by user" mod feature now causes posts to be completely hidden instead of replaced with "Troll Post". [Logged]
- "Mark all as read" forum feature doesn't work. [Logged]
- "Save Draft" feature doesn't work as expected. [Logged]
- Forum post preview doesn't show all markup. [FIXED]
- Unread indicators on individual forums (topics.php) seem to have nothing to do with whether you actually have any unread posts. [Logged]
- Avatar upload is broken. [In Progress]
- Avatar galleries aren't formatted properly. [Logged]
- Crowners are broken. [Logged]
- Namespace configurator (mod tool) is missing some auto page type options, and the namespace locking feature doesn't work. [Logged]
Previously compiled lists of problems:
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Edited by Fighteer on Jul 13th 2018 at 3:56:59 PM
See also Know the Staff in case anyone still wonders about who is staff and which roles we have.
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
The lack of boxes on posts makes it really hard to read, it's more of a Youtube or Tumblr comment section than a forum.
The Protomen enhanced my life.
I'd really just rather have the old layout back. Why change everything when you could have just edited the old one slightly?
Add me to the logged out train!
Seriously, I'm starting to get pissed off. Clearly the mods/admins are seeing our posts, so why have none of our questions been answered at all? Why was this design implemented? Was any bug-testing done before shoving it out? Is there any reason for why the old layout isn't being switched back while the bugs are ironed out? Seriously, I'd at least like some answers instead of the little lists of errors that are just copy-pasting what other people have said! Seriously, this whole thing is worse than Deviant Art Version 7 was back in 2010 and we're getting no answers from the mods besides "we're working on it"? And just how long will that take? I want a usable website here, not this buggy pile of garbage. If shit doesn't get fixed or answered soon, I swear me and probably many other users will just drop TV Tropes like a hot brick. Don't just sit there and do nothing, tell us what the hell is going on!
EDIT: Looks like someone answered as I was typing this up, and it smells of bullshit. The computer I'm using is only a year old, is using Windows 10, and has the most recent version of Google Chrome installed on it. If the reason for the site not working is "the testing was done, you're just using old programs/devices" then it doesn't hold up.
Edited by IshiMatsu615 on Jun 26th 2018 at 7:43:01 AM
Exactly, why not just give the people an option to just use the old layout if they want to instead of forcing the new one on them?
Crossed-Over
Yeah the pictures all seem to have been shrunk. It's making some of them practically worthless since they were JUST on the fringe of usefulness at the previous size.
Google "big ears"
Another logged out victim.
Also, my sandbox has been edit locked and i don't know if i should report it here or not
Uni cat
Ditto for me on the "randomly logged out" train.
Is there any place I can put up a petition for the old layout back?
Peace out, peeps.
There's way too much blank space. After every trope on a work list there's way too much blank space between entries (while meanwhile further bullet points are just bunched up together) and quotes that use multiple lines are also divided by too much white space making them look weird. It all just looks very ugly.
No one told me beforehand that we won't be able to log in for several hours, causing me to panic.
Forums appear to allow me to post and NOT post at total random. Sometimes it just gives me a window that says "this discussion is set to private". I tried to post this very post MANY times!
Night Clerk of the Apacalypse.
Display options found in the side bar keep resetting and I am unable to pull up any of the usual account options when clicking on the avatar in the upper right hand corner. I only see logout and message. The rest pushes up out of view.
PC Windows 7/IE 11.
I use two different computers to access the site depending where I am during the day. I will check on my other machine later and see how it holds up.
Edited by TuefelHundenIV on Jun 26th 2018 at 7:26:56 AM
Who watches the watchmen?
Kool Koopa Girl There's change.org I guess, though that seems abit overdramatic given the circumstances it is the only one I can think of at the moment beyond a poll.
One thing that would be very helpful when providing a complaint or bug is a specific example (e.g., a link or a screenshot) and what browser/device you are using. Many of these "design" bugs are browser/device specific and hard for us to troubleshoot without more direction.
Edited by drewski on Jun 26th 2018 at 4:45:48 AM
RIG
Where is the spoiler reveal button in web mode' i can't find it.
I meant on this wiki.
Peace out, peeps.
@RIG It's only in your profile options. There's no spoiler reveal button on the sidebar anymore.
Edited by EmeraldSky on Jun 26th 2018 at 4:46:27 AM
Psychic Mechanical Implement
Since I now have the screenshot of the cutoff bug, here it is:
Context menu cut-off, using Windows 7 and IE 11.
Edited by TropeYoshi on Jun 26th 2018 at 7:50:12 AM
Redmess
I suggest fixing the page locks ASAP, by the way, before the number of locked pages runs into the thousands.
Optimism is a duty.
The site Title Search function isn't working right now. The page doesn't want to load, and when it does, searches always come back saying not to put quotes around terms.
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- On desktop, checked with Opera and Microsoft Edge.
Edited by Sjogre on Jun 26th 2018 at 4:56:52 AM
The captions in WMG in Night Mode are white font on light grey background and thus quite hard to read.
I must say that I personally like though how the closed folders look now.
And earlier, it was on some pages hard to read the indexes at the bottom of pages in Night Mode, so I hope that should parts of this update be reversed, that some things remain.
Edit: Am using the mobile version on iOS at the moment.
Edit 2: That's what it looks like on mobile
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Edited by Hjortron18 on Jun 26th 2018 at 2:01:24 PM
RIG it's gone this post explains better
Kool Koopa Girl, you could make a crowner if you wanted
drewski: it seems like the issue with the random buttons and profile drop-down loading upwards are prevalent on Internet Explorer; there's no cursor in text input boxes on Firefox; most other issues seem to be universal
Edited by lakingsif on Jun 26th 2018 at 4:59:22 AM
OH MY GOD; MY PARENTS ARE GARDENIIIIINNNNGGGGG!!!!!
Psychic Mechanical Implement
Apparent improvement: Unless it's just a graphical difference on my end, doubleposts (posts that are shown to have been posted at the exact same time) appear to not cause weird bugs anymore when they are edited.
Edited by TropeYoshi on Jun 26th 2018 at 7:54:20 AM
Every time I close Firefox I get logged out. Also, and I'm starting to think this is just me because I've heard no one else complain about this, I have no blinking text cursor when I type a post or edit a page.
Might just be easier to set the site back to what it was originally.
And just a thought, if the admins don't do that, we could boycott TV Tropes until they do... (just so we're clear, that was a joke)
Peace out, peeps.