Fallout: 76 - Take Me Home, Country Roads

The Responders quests were set up by them to teach the survivors who had no clue what they were doing how to survive. For the players, it functions as a tutorial of sorts, though it's not that hard to figure the stuff out on your own.

Also in looking at the article, the bags aren't the same ones as in the Power Armor edition, but the fact that they're canvas at all is a bit suspect.

Edited by strawberryflavored on Dec 1st 2018 at 12:07:44 PM

I assume these tutorials go beyond things that actually make sense as "tutorials for survival in-universe?"

Ah yes, we'll teach you how to survive with the hopes that more dangerous breeds of mutated creatures won't have spawned in the region by the time that you attempt them.

We'll leave behind our expensive and very likely limited series of Protectrons for you to slaughter and scavenge from with reckless abandon.

Oh yes, kill 5-6 mutated Scorched and bring back their livers! We'll reward you with ordinary junk and bottlecaps!

I'm no microbiologist, but it confuses me how water can be both full of disease and irradiated? Seeing as how we irradiate water to kill bacteria?

Radbacteria.

Radteria.

Country ain't my thing, but Miracle of Sound can always turn a frown upside-down.

Also, this video isn't as negative as it lets on:

oh, a collab between miracle of sound and JT ? neat !

https://twitter.com/BethesdaSupport/status/1069713890806849536 holy shit bethesda is finally not one-upping themselves in sheer stupidity. it was about time the record was gonna break.

Heh. I was just heading over here to post that tweet.

So, okay. Bethesda finally gets one right. Or at least claims to get one right. I'll wait to see if they actually do that before giving praise. Either way, they're at the very least passively admitting the mistake here. They're not holding to the "canvas shortage" excuse or anything. They fucked up, and they're apologizing instead of pressing on with the mistake. That I can respect.

Hey, they made it so it takes Ballistic Fiber to repair gear when that wasn't required to create it. It's clear they're a little iffy on issues of apparel manufacture.

The tweet in question:

We are finalizing manufacturing plans for replacement canvas bags for the Fallout 76: Power Armor Edition. If you purchased the CE, please visit https://beth.games/2QDropM and submit a ticket by Jan. 31, 2019. We’ll arrange to send you a replacement as soon as the bags are ready.

I mean, the tutorials the Responders set up are just how to purify water and how to hunt and cook food. It's simple stuff, but then it seems like a lot of survivors show up at their doorstep not even knowing the basics. I'd assume there were other tests planned for things like how to perform basic first aid and things, but either they weren't able to find a way to automate them or they were killed off by the Scorched before they could get around to making them.

Chris Franklin did an {Errant Signal} stepping into the whole 76 discussion.

It's probably unsurprising if you're familiar with him that it takes a fairly critical view of the game, but he ultimately argues that the overall concept of the game is fine — but the game is pretty bad about the execution. The ultimate point he makes, which I think I broached upon earlier, is that there's not really much stimulating player-player stuff. There's not much incentive to group up over just staying on your own, there are no faction/clan mechanics, and there's no real incentive to, say, go out trading. Thematically they're off, but the nukes are cited as an example of something bringing people together — but they're pretty end-game stuff and alone it's not enough.

Which I think I'd agree on, on the whole. As much I do enjoy single-player games, I've had plenty of engaging multiplayer experiences — even without mics or whathaveyou — and I think Fallout 76 was flawed at providing much room for me to have any there. I realise that that's got to be balanced with, well, some players do evidently want to stick on their own, but I think it's part of the reason a lot have called the world empty-feeling. I'd be interested to think about what I'd do to change any of that. I'm not sure adding server permanence is the best idea, but the fact all is fleeting does currently mean there's not really any lasting communities being created, or anything along those lines.

Edited by Lavaeolus on Dec 4th 2018 at 5:18:33 PM

One of the recurring themes of the Fallout franchise is that people ultimately cannot survive by themselves. They have to pull together. A multiplayer Fallout game should reinforce this.

From what I watched of the main quest, there are several instances of the game reminding you to work together with other people and love thy neighbor. That's what the responders were all about at least.

IMO, the main storyline of this game kind of undercuts that message. At first the groups not working together allowed the Scorch to take a foothold. The Free States wouldn't work with anyone and the Responders were preoccupied with Raider troubles. But by the end, teaming up only hastened their downfalls because it meant the Scorched horde assimilating ANY of them gave them knowledge of what ALL of the groups were planning. Of course, one can argue the Scorched collective hive-mind is an example of perfect cooperation in itself.

So this virus is teaching us the power of friendship, is what you're saying?

So apparently Beth stealth nerf stuff and left it out of patch notes...when r/fo76 aren't happy, I think that's a poor sign.

Edited by onyhow on Dec 5th 2018 at 8:29:10 AM

It's not new. All of Bethesda's patches for most of their games have had changes not documented in the patch notes.

I'm going to disagree with that because I've seen many a fickle, vicious, and petty subreddit forcing its members to join the Hate Dom the moment the mods/admins stop liking the subject.

F'76's subreddit being unhappy is a given, not a sign.

Edited by Soble on Dec 5th 2018 at 2:41:09 AM

Regarding the nerfs: People found ways to get ahead in the game. As people do; they seek out favorable risk/reward and gravitate away from time-wasting ventures.

The problem is, Bethesda was fast to stomp those out, when so much in the game is broken. Daily Quests are non-functional, but they found the time to make sure people can't get caps easily. Laser and Plasma weapons are still unusable, but they fast track a nerf to the number of springs that fall out of bears.

Who cares if fighting the end game boss still crashes the servers? People have too many Fusion Cores!

Poor priorities, combined with trying to "sneak" the nerfs in undocumented for the players.

^^^ In Single player game that's one thing...multiplayer's kinda different though.

^^ You haven't seen their behavior during the game's first week of release, don't you? r/fo76 isn't r/fallout.

Speaking of canvas bag thing, this happened.

Edited by onyhow on Dec 5th 2018 at 6:14:19 AM

This game truly is the gift that keeps on giving.

Bethesda Support Leaks Fallout 76 Customer Names, Addresses & Phone Numbers

Oh what in the everloving fuck.

You know what? I'm not even surprised now.

It is darkly amusing that Bethesda is so incompetent that in their attempt to fix one fuck up they made a far worse one.

Edited by M84 on Dec 5th 2018 at 9:46:47 PM

Fucking hell

Even their fucking site is buggy! Oh, man, that is glorious... Even when they do something right they can't help but fuck it up... this is almost a sitcom episode at this point.