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erazor0707 The Unknown Unknown from The Infinitude of Meh Since: Dec, 2014 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
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#20601: Nov 7th 2018 at 10:55:36 PM

NY!Corrin can be a Drive/Spur bot in Arena for the cheerleader meta. That is if you don't like Marth.

Oh, TT+ seals are Gale Dance (bleh), Water Boost (situational), and Atk/Def Bond (YOOOOOOO).

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KuroiTsubasaTenshi Streamer from Twitch Since: May, 2011
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#20602: Nov 7th 2018 at 11:02:45 PM

Gale Dance is actually pretty decent, since it lets a refresher give a Spd boost to their target without needing to give up Wings of Mercy in their B slot.

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Emperordaein Grant us eyes from Australia Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Hugging my pillow
Grant us eyes
#20603: Nov 7th 2018 at 11:10:30 PM

It's funny how the tagline for Book III is "The day the light died" while meanwhile in the Smash Bros World, alot of the Fire Emblem characters (among others) are having problems with, let's say too much light.

A corpse should be left well enough alone...
DemonDamian Creating a new humanity Since: May, 2012 Relationship Status: Buried in snow, waiting for spring
Creating a new humanity
#20604: Nov 7th 2018 at 11:15:27 PM

wild mass guessWorld of Light is a Book III prequel. Killing off Galeem in World of Light shifted the balance too much in the other direction and the FEH guys have to deal with the aftermath.wild mass guess

erazor0707 The Unknown Unknown from The Infinitude of Meh Since: Dec, 2014 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
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#20605: Nov 7th 2018 at 11:39:49 PM

Arena bonus units, Tempest Trial units, and Aether Raid rotations.

Looking a little rough just eyeballing them. The TT+ being 5* locked save Young Azura is pretty rough.

A cruel, sick joke is still a joke, and sometimes all you can do is laugh.
Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#20606: Nov 7th 2018 at 11:46:11 PM

Thankfully I have a pretty good Bow Hinoka, so she'll serve me well in the upcoming trials.

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KuroiTsubasaTenshi Streamer from Twitch Since: May, 2011
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#20607: Nov 8th 2018 at 12:01:59 AM

Oh, man, my Gwendolyn +10 is a bonus, which means I can bring Fjorm to put my Arena score off in crazy land. Let's go!

Looks like I'll have a decently strong start for Aether Trials, since I can use my Fjorm +7. I could actually make an entire team of six built bonus units from that roster, but if it scores like Arena, that'd be a bad idea (none of Kliff, F!Robin, Aversa or Sharena are merged 5*s and Est is a 4*+10).

I've got Ryoma for Tempest, though he's capped on HM, so I'll definitely be looking to get the new Azura to replace him ASAP.

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agent-trunks IHE from Every-where, but there Since: Apr, 2015
IHE
#20608: Nov 8th 2018 at 3:17:15 AM

I'm not understanding the post here. A hatred towards the community is what you're saying here?

That just reinforce the double standard treatment.

You're right.

Eirika & Y!Tiki Japanese legendary video has more dislikes than Marth's & Hectors. The Fire Emblem community has double standards in general. I don't want to consider myself a Fire Emblem fan anymore. It started with people complaining about Lyn's inclusion in Fire Emblem Warriors, cemented itself with Lucina's legendary video & end with this knowledge. It didn't matter how many times I empathize with them, they still came across obnoxious and I'm just done with that crap. On top of that, I'm not enjoying the other games as much I want to so that's enough for me believe I'm not a Fire Emblem fan. I probably never was one since the only ones I did enjoy were Awakening & Fate

Yumil Mad Archivist Since: Mar, 2016
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#20609: Nov 8th 2018 at 8:51:04 AM

There's certainly lessons to learn from those facts, but i fail to see how letting other people's reactions dictate what you like and don't like because you don't want to associate with them is one of those.

"when you stare too long into the abyss, Xehanort takes advantage of the distraction to break into your house and steal all your shit."
HarpieSiren Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: I've been dreaming of True Love's Kiss
#20610: Nov 8th 2018 at 8:54:21 AM

You've got to reach "not give a fuck" nirvana when it comes to fandoms, because it seems like every big fandom has its bad sides.

I realize that's easier said than done, though.

Yumil Mad Archivist Since: Mar, 2016
Mad Archivist
#20611: Nov 8th 2018 at 8:57:02 AM

It's certainly easier if you don't actively seek out the negativity. I still have to see a toxic fire emblem fan myself, but I'm not exactly in any hurry to get to their reddit, or to look at the forum section of serenes forest or gamefaqs anytime soon. I follow the romhacking discord of the 3ds fire emblems and it's pretty chill, and that's fine by me.

Edited by Yumil on Nov 8th 2018 at 5:57:29 PM

"when you stare too long into the abyss, Xehanort takes advantage of the distraction to break into your house and steal all your shit."
HarpieSiren Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: I've been dreaming of True Love's Kiss
#20612: Nov 8th 2018 at 9:01:54 AM

Yeah, I've totally sworn off the reddit, and I really only check here to see other's reactions to new trailers.

Never mind that I'm not even really a Fire Emblem fan to begin with, at least I wasn't when I picked up the game. I'm a voice acting fan and was drawn in by the impressive English cast.

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#20613: Nov 8th 2018 at 9:44:54 AM

So, here's the weird thing: it's actually pretty difficult to see these kinds of people on Reddit, GameFAQs or Serenes. They definitely exist and make their presence known when they show up (and TVTropes certainly isn't devoid of bad eggs, but consider how little they're seen here, too), but those places don't get a lot of topics that would really facilitate clashes of strong opinions. There's usually threads about Arena or targeting certain difficult events, but for the most part, it's all shit posts, which few people take seriously, so there's a lot less tension when there's opposing opinions.

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IniuriaTalis Since: Oct, 2014
#20614: Nov 8th 2018 at 9:48:14 AM

I don't know about that. On Gamefaqs at least just mentioning particular characters will attract snide comments about how they/their game sucks.

KuroiTsubasaTenshi Streamer from Twitch Since: May, 2011
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#20615: Nov 8th 2018 at 10:07:47 AM

And the majority of that is hyperbolic troll comments in shit posts. Sure, they probably do actually believe at least part of that, but serious arguments aren't that common. Most of the time, it's just a long list of troll comments in a sea of shit posts that almost no one cares about other than the fact that they're bored.

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IniuriaTalis Since: Oct, 2014
#20616: Nov 8th 2018 at 10:12:46 AM

But how is "everyone's a negative shitposting troll" not toxic?

HarpieSiren Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: I've been dreaming of True Love's Kiss
#20617: Nov 8th 2018 at 10:13:53 AM

Yeah, troll or not, they still bring negativity.

dragonfire5000 from Where gods fear to tread Since: Jan, 2001
#20618: Nov 8th 2018 at 10:33:13 AM

I still have to see a toxic fire emblem fan myself

I think your standards for what counts as a toxic fan might be different from mine, because I've certainly seen some on this site. Thankfully, some of them have been thrown out for bad behavior, and at least this site is not as bad as GameFAQs (which, admittedly, is not a very high bar to clear).

Edited by dragonfire5000 on Nov 8th 2018 at 10:33:23 AM

Yumil Mad Archivist Since: Mar, 2016
Mad Archivist
#20619: Nov 8th 2018 at 10:39:09 AM

[up]It's easier than that : I haven't been on this site for long enough. I don't think I've been there for a whole year yet. or barely. I guess there was one or two people with severe cases of single issues wonk, but even them were relatively civil about it and weren't throwing insults and ad hominem everywhere.

"when you stare too long into the abyss, Xehanort takes advantage of the distraction to break into your house and steal all your shit."
dragonfire5000 from Where gods fear to tread Since: Jan, 2001
#20620: Nov 8th 2018 at 10:43:55 AM

[up]I know a few posters who were fairly quick to resort to ad hominems (and I've been the target of ad hominems before on this site). Thankfully, the ones who are still on this site don't do it as often as they used to, but they're still prone to rude behavior.

Edited by dragonfire5000 on Nov 8th 2018 at 11:10:25 AM

erazor0707 The Unknown Unknown from The Infinitude of Meh Since: Dec, 2014 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
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#20621: Nov 8th 2018 at 10:48:31 AM

I've seen them. The fandom gets vocal, but I'm used to hearing the same or worse because I'm in involved in Sonic, Pokemon, Final Fantasy, and Smash fandoms.

Now, speaking of gameplay, datamines reveal Null Follow-Up is infantry exclusive.

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EpicBleye drunk bunny from her bed being very eepy Since: Sep, 2014 Relationship Status: In Lesbians with you
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#20622: Nov 8th 2018 at 11:33:51 AM

man null follow-up sounds real good on nowi, esp since i can give her a QR seal.

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KuroiTsubasaTenshi Streamer from Twitch Since: May, 2011
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#20623: Nov 8th 2018 at 11:52:38 AM

But how is "everyone's a negative shitposting troll" not toxic?
Not all of the shit posting is negative. Most of it is just bizarre, wacky or legitimately funny. It's easy to brush off the few negative posts when they have little impact on conversations that are inherently weird and/or absurd.

[up] Hmmm, that feels kind of lame in a way that doesn't really solve the Bold Fighter spam issue. I guess there's a number of tanky infantry who can make use of it, but I really think the restriction should have been to non-ranged units instead of by movement type.

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erazor0707 The Unknown Unknown from The Infinitude of Meh Since: Dec, 2014 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
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#20624: Nov 8th 2018 at 11:58:11 AM

I feel like this is going to be like what happened with Panic Ploy.

Edited by erazor0707 on Nov 8th 2018 at 11:58:36 AM

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KuroiTsubasaTenshi Streamer from Twitch Since: May, 2011
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#20625: Nov 8th 2018 at 1:07:17 PM

No one uses it and then they finally throw their hands up and give us a Sacred Seal for it? tongue

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