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tbarrie Since: Jan, 2001
#51: Jan 13th 2017 at 4:44:20 PM

I've been thinking about the frolicking issue, and is there any reason we can't crosswick from the creators' trivia pages (assuming the creator in question has a page)?

Memers Since: Aug, 2013
#52: Jan 13th 2017 at 6:31:42 PM

[up][up] It depends, some are franchise installments like Star Wars Detours, which was completely finished but not released because Disney bought Star Wars and they shelved it cause it was made by the showrunners of Robot Chicken, would be an example on the work and franchise page.

The ones that eventually did get a release years later do have pages as well.

crazysamaritan NaNo 4328 / 50,000 from Lupin III Since: Apr, 2010
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#53: Jan 13th 2017 at 7:45:57 PM

The ones that eventually did get a release years later do have pages as well.
Sure, and ya notice those aren't straight examples anymore, doncha know. There's several factors working against this trope from growing even after we make sure to give it the best possible chance. That should be acknowledged, though I make no excuse for us not to do our best onnit.

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AmourMitts Since: Jan, 2016
#54: Jan 14th 2017 at 12:47:59 PM

Can we add new options to the crowner, like renaming Zero-Episode Wonder to a different title?

crazysamaritan NaNo 4328 / 50,000 from Lupin III Since: Apr, 2010
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#55: Jan 14th 2017 at 3:28:22 PM

The assumption is that we will be doing that process next.

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pokedude10 Since: Oct, 2010
#56: Jan 14th 2017 at 3:40:43 PM

[up][up] Amour Mitts, to add on to what Samaritan said, we put on a single proposition crowner because that's what thread consensus called for. By consensus, I don't mean 100% of thread participants, but a majority that thought merging was the best option. This type of crowner is only meant to have one option and is open to people who may not have participated in this thread. We get a wider consensus than just those in the thread.

If it passes, then we'll put up a new crowner for renaming the merged trope IF consensus thinks we need to rename it. smile

crazysamaritan NaNo 4328 / 50,000 from Lupin III Since: Apr, 2010
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#57: Jan 17th 2017 at 8:10:19 AM

Crowner has been up for five days, and is 12 to 3 in favour of a merge.

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Prfnoff Since: Jan, 2001
#58: Jan 17th 2017 at 11:16:14 AM

Is it time to start suggesting new titles yet?

Larkmarn Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Hello, I love you
#59: Jan 17th 2017 at 11:31:13 AM

Technically, that would be another TRS, or at least another crowner since this one only decides on merging them, not on changing a name.

But given the fact that no one seems to be disagreeing with a name change... wouldn't hurt.

edited 17th Jan '17 11:31:37 AM by Larkmarn

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crazysamaritan NaNo 4328 / 50,000 from Lupin III Since: Apr, 2010
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#60: Jan 17th 2017 at 11:40:30 AM

Once the crowner gets closed, I was expecting us to switch the name of the thread to Shelf Of Movie and hook a rename yes/no crowner.

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Xtifr World's Toughest Milkman Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
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#61: Jan 17th 2017 at 11:48:15 AM

Since we're basically broadening the purpose of the merge target, a rename crowner seems good. Other name suggestions?

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Prfnoff Since: Jan, 2001
#62: Jan 17th 2017 at 12:15:38 PM

I've always thought Shelved for Release would be a better title. Indeed, I see I created that as a redirect way back when it was possible to do that.

edited 17th Jan '17 12:16:39 PM by Prfnoff

AmourMitts Since: Jan, 2016
#63: Jan 18th 2017 at 1:01:35 PM

In all, this discussion should have fallen under "Not Thriving". And as for a rename crowner, I would suggest new names that pokedude10 suggested in an earlier post.

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#64: Jan 18th 2017 at 8:09:09 PM

Calling the crowner in favor of a merge.

As renaming was brought up, if anyone wants to pitch a crowner with name suggestions, go right ahead.

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pokedude10 Since: Oct, 2010
#65: Jan 18th 2017 at 10:28:29 PM

[up]Huh. I'll second a crowner for a rename. Languishment is awkward and not really memorable. Do we need a single prop for a rename for this one or can we skip to a title crowner?

I'll go ahead and list the alts I suggested back on page 2 for ease of reference: Withheld Release, Produced Not Released, Produced Never Released, Indefinitely Delayed Release, Stilborn Production, Stillborn Work.

edited 18th Jan '17 10:29:44 PM by pokedude10

crazysamaritan NaNo 4328 / 50,000 from Lupin III Since: Apr, 2010
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#66: Jan 19th 2017 at 5:08:14 AM

I switched the thread's name. I'm ambivalent about a rename crowner. The Shelf of Movie Languishment seems to have done well enough, but isn't very indicative, so I'll vote in favour of a rename. I haven't seen anyone argue in favour of keeping the name either, so a rename crowner is probably a foregone conclusion in favour of renaming. I'd like a mod fiat saying we can skip that step and go straight to the multiproposition for new names.

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AmourMitts Since: Jan, 2016
Daefaroth Fnord from California Since: Jan, 2014 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
#68: Jan 21st 2017 at 2:04:42 PM

In a more general sense this is defined as having been mothballed. Is it in general enough usage to call it a Mothballed Work or Mothballed Project?

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AmourMitts Since: Jan, 2016
#69: Jan 21st 2017 at 8:58:54 PM

[up] That's eight new page names so far.

Memers Since: Aug, 2013
#70: Jan 21st 2017 at 9:03:26 PM

[up][up] That name would be about already airing shows that get canceled instead of shows that were made and didn't get released.

There isn't really a word for ships that get made and finished but never get launched or christened.

Daefaroth Fnord from California Since: Jan, 2014 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
#71: Jan 22nd 2017 at 1:56:46 AM

Mothballing isn't only used for ships. You can also mothball a project or a plan. And I don't think we have to worry too much about it being it being confused with cancelling a show considering that is usually referred to as "cancelling a show".

  • 1. (Elements & Compounds) Also called: camphor ball a small ball of camphor or naphthalene used to repel clothes moths in stored clothing, blankets, etc
  • 2. put in mothballs to postpone work on (a project, activity, etc) vb (tr)
  • 3. (Nautical Terms) to prepare (a ship, aircraft, etc) for a long period of storage by sealing all openings with plastic to prevent corrosion
  • 4. (Commerce) to take (a factory, plant, etc) out of operation but maintain it so that it can be used in the future
  • 5. to postpone work on (a project, activity, etc)

edited 22nd Jan '17 1:57:35 AM by Daefaroth

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crazysamaritan NaNo 4328 / 50,000 from Lupin III Since: Apr, 2010
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#72: Jan 22nd 2017 at 10:33:56 AM

Definitions 2 and 5 suggest the work is not complete. Definitions 3 and 4 seem to apply.

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AmourMitts Since: Jan, 2016
#73: Jan 25th 2017 at 6:05:14 PM

So, haven't we come to a final decision?

crazysamaritan NaNo 4328 / 50,000 from Lupin III Since: Apr, 2010
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#74: Jan 25th 2017 at 6:52:25 PM

We have voted to merge "Zero Episode" into "Shelf", but no-one has created a rename (yes/no) crowner or a rename (select new name) crowner.

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Xtifr World's Toughest Milkman Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
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#75: Jan 25th 2017 at 11:15:38 PM

We're discussing possible names. Votes any type of crowner may well depend on what we come up with, so it's always a good idea to spitball name ideas before setting up a crowner.

I, for one, don't want to give a yes/no vote on renaming until I see some suggestions. If nobody can come up with something better, then we might as well keep the current name. It's not very good, but I'd rather not have to switch to something worse! And not changing the name is certainly less work!

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