Manga/ The Promised Neverland

https://www.peta.org/students/student-life/promised-neverland-animal-rights-message/

I just knew Peta would have their own take on Promised Neverland. It's now going to ruin anime.

Edited by firewriter on Mar 15th 2019 at 10:06:22 AM

I mean they've been this with Pokemon for what how long?

I thought we'll get along just fine.

Oh yeah, I forgot Pokemon is anime. But it just made me realize how many parallels this series has with PETA propaganda.

Well, it has many parallels with reality. The main difference is that our cattle can't speak or come up with crazy escape plans. And that cows or chickens aren't guarded by other cows and chickens.

Well, PETA seems to think that we live in a world where Chicken Run is possible.

PETA can get fucked, as far as I'm concerned.

Of course, PETA neglects to mention that the children themselves eat meat. Just the Circle of Life.

I'm very curious to see how Emma can Shonen protagonist a solution to this problem in a way that doesn't feel forced and unearned.

Because right now the story is hammering in why everything she wants just isn't feasible. It did that before too, but now the scale is so much bigger.

Edited by LSBK on Mar 16th 2019 at 1:39:40 PM

We can't forget that the Seven Walls thing was suggested to her by Musica in the first place. Would she really have done that if she knew it couldn't work?

I understand Norman's position, but how does hunting down Musica help the situation? It won't do anything about the demons she's already helped, and unless they eliminate all the demons that don't need human meat, the threat of intelligent demons has no end. A better option would be building a military force too strong for the demons to mess with and relying on the demons to be smart enough not to pick a fight with them. They could also clue the other demons in on Musica's survival, which would assuage the threat posed by being deprived of human meat and/or cause a great deal of infighting among the demons.

Almost all of the demons that had Musica's blood besides the nobles that won't share were already killed, so Musica herself is the only one who is a real risk of spreading the anti-degeneration after the hierarchy is eliminated.

Thats what they say, but there's implied sympathizers and allies of Musica beyond what weve seen. it's how she managed to avoid being eaten and Lewis even had enough of a past with her to remember a scene from his past with her and Sungjoo before dying. So I think there are some surprises lying in wait.

She's already resumed sharing. Any of the new converts she makes is capable of spreading the immunity.

One other thing that is an obstacle in Emma's goal is that, judging by Sonju salivating at the thought of eating humans again, humans are apparently an Impossibly Delicious Food to Demons. Even if they don't need to eat humans to remain sentient, they will still want to keep eating humans.

Humans are pretty much the perfect food for Demons. Humans are Brain Food on multiple levels and delicious.

Edited by M84 on Mar 18th 2019 at 6:58:43 PM

I get that. We just taste too darn good. I gave up on waiting for cloned pig muscle cells years ago; there's real pork now.

Any chance they can grab Mujica and take her to Scribbles to force the issue?

Also, I'm disappointed in you, Emma. Your first question after hearing that bombshell was, "The Royal family are selfish pricks?!" And stop being so trusting of Norman. Get out of there before he throws you in prison.

What if Musica is Scribble's daughter or something? She's already Demon Jesus, so that would make sense.

@M84, I get that. That's why military deterrence is vital. Smart predators who aren't desperate don't pick fights with prey capable of killing them.

New chap out… So there will be no compromise, eh. Either Emma succeeds first, or Norman does, but neither will yield. I'm still glad both acknowledge the other's point of view − it will be a race more than an outright conflict in the end.

Emma does make a good point here: if they had gone for the "efficient and pragmatic solution", then they would have never escaped in the first place, at least not with this many people.

In general I like how the chapter made it explicit this is about Cold Utilitarianism vs Ethics and not about Realism vs Idealism.

Emma's stance is "We have method to try to do something about this, so we should try at least" while Norman's stance is "I won't take any risks"

I also like it that it was brought up explicitly that its not just "Killing is bad" but "Killing all the children who are innocent in matter and friend who helped us get this far just to be safe is bad".

Like I don't think you can argue based on this chapter that Emma is being too naive or that author didn't think the dilemma through

I'm sure someone will try to argue that regardless though.

I mean, it's not even like Norman's plan is flawless… Emma's plan has little chance of success, but it's still worth trying.

"I know logically you're right, but why should we listen to logic?!"

In all seriousness tho, this turned out better than it could've have. Emma at least understands that she can't just stake the future on nothing more than good intentions. She needs results if she wants her path to be a viable one. And Norman didn't turn into some straw-man or villain - he's just a guy who carries the weight of the world on his shoulders.

This couple chapters tackled a tricky subject to navigate, but I think they did quite well in the end.

So I liked how this was handled. Emma's not being totally logical (because she never is) but is still making some solid points, and Norman isn't being made out to be a monster. Both sides understand they're trying to do what's best, and they aren't being framed as having to fight one another. I hope it stays that way.

Agree. This kind of conflict is not something most shonen manga handle well, so it was refreshing.

It's not like wiping out the demons would be an easy task, even without the wrinkle of a faction that doesn't need to eat humans to maintain their intellect. When the demons become desperate, they'll attack the human base. Norman can't expect to win this war without casualties.