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vicarious vicarious from NC, USA Since: Feb, 2013
vicarious
#29701: Dec 18th 2018 at 12:46:49 PM

Both things don’t have to be mutually exclusive

Ibaraki you can argue is more that because she doesn’t have the actual VA impression mixed in

But yeah it’s there with Shuten. Idk which is creepier that or it looking genuinely close to Aoi Yuuki. Its still funny but like in the way you laugh at Takeuchi for basing his blonde heroines on actual people he stalker crushed on

Aoi Yuuki is great tho

Prany Since: Apr, 2013
#29702: Dec 18th 2018 at 1:45:24 PM

Takeuchi for basing his blonde heroines on actual people he stalker crushed on

Wat?

BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: Jun, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
CHADhan Player.
#29703: Dec 18th 2018 at 1:51:40 PM

[up][up][up][up] So even if she's confirmed to be based on actual adult of similar stature, she's still a loli.

Ok...

A lazy millennial who's good at what he does.
danime91 Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#29704: Dec 18th 2018 at 1:53:00 PM

Didn't the character designer or someone say that they wanted to make her a loli character? Saying they based her off her VA seems like backtracking.

And besides, the term loli as used in popular culture refers to a specific female body type of being small, looking young, and lacking in secondary sexual characteristics. If they based her on her VA, that just means her VA would be considered a loli.

Edited by danime91 on Dec 18th 2018 at 1:55:04 AM

HailMuffins Since: May, 2016 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
#29705: Dec 18th 2018 at 1:57:48 PM

How about we cut the subject short? This feels Flame War-y.

erazor0707 The Unknown Unknown from The Infinitude of Meh Since: Dec, 2014 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
The Unknown Unknown
#29706: Dec 18th 2018 at 2:01:58 PM

Yeah, change the subject before people get caught in their feelings.

A cruel, sick joke is still a joke, and sometimes all you can do is laugh.
vicarious vicarious from NC, USA Since: Feb, 2013
vicarious
#29707: Dec 18th 2018 at 2:28:32 PM

>Takeuchi being a creeper

Arc is based on this obscure model he was fascinated by, you can tell by the haircut

Jeanne is literally based on his thirstiness of this one French exchange student he knew in college

Comun Since: Jun, 2012
#29708: Dec 18th 2018 at 2:44:25 PM

Reminder that Shuten being physically based on Aoi Yuuki is purely fan speculation and the official designer comment does nothing to hint at. Instead it gave the impression that Raita didn't know who the voice actress was going to be when he was designing it.

danime91 Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#29709: Dec 18th 2018 at 2:50:50 PM

Considering the whole Saberface Syndrome thing, the resemblances couldn't have extended far past their hair styles. And maybe their nationalities.

erazor0707 The Unknown Unknown from The Infinitude of Meh Since: Dec, 2014 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
The Unknown Unknown
#29710: Dec 18th 2018 at 2:51:20 PM

[up][up][up] Citation needed.

Edited by erazor0707 on Dec 18th 2018 at 2:51:31 AM

A cruel, sick joke is still a joke, and sometimes all you can do is laugh.
Comun Since: Jun, 2012
#29711: Dec 18th 2018 at 2:59:56 PM

I don't have any for the Jeanne part, but here's Arcueid's.

WolfThunder Before the storm closes in, the wolf howls at th Since: Jun, 2013
Before the storm closes in, the wolf howls at th
#29712: Dec 18th 2018 at 3:32:44 PM

Valkyriz Navidad.

The storm has now resided, the wolf now rests.
HailMuffins Since: May, 2016 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
erazor0707 The Unknown Unknown from The Infinitude of Meh Since: Dec, 2014 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
The Unknown Unknown
#29714: Dec 18th 2018 at 4:21:02 PM

o_o

A cruel, sick joke is still a joke, and sometimes all you can do is laugh.
RedSavant Since: Jan, 2001
#29715: Dec 18th 2018 at 4:23:58 PM

Eh, I'm not really a fan of Takeuchi's art, but I would say 'based a foreign vampire off a foreign model he liked the look of' isn't stalking. That doesn't sound particularly fair.

^^Damn. I hope they're at peace.

It's been fun.
HailMuffins Since: May, 2016 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
#29716: Dec 18th 2018 at 4:40:28 PM

Especially when the man himself said his memories of the image are rather vague.

I also wanted to point out that, unless Japanese Law is severely behind the times, using someone's likelihood for anything without their permission is a crime and Aoi Yuuki could have sued the shit out of Notes and Delightworks, therefore chances are she gave her permission for the art to be used in-game.

RedSavant Since: Jan, 2001
#29717: Dec 18th 2018 at 5:04:09 PM

Yuuki Aoi voices the character, recently voiced an additional version of the character, and routinely makes Fate-related appearances. This was her announcement post for Oniland, too. Barring studio abuse or other behind-the-scenes things, it seems like she's entirely okay with it.

Honestly, I don't blame people for not liking Shuten's design, but she's not a child. However, part of the problem comes from her final ascension art, which is horribly proportioned - her head is too big relative to her body, which does make her look like a child in that art piece.

It's been fun.
BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: Jun, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
CHADhan Player.
#29718: Dec 18th 2018 at 5:10:13 PM

Her Caster artwork is way better...relatively speaking.

And London done. Wish we could have participated in the Golden Lightning Battle between Kintoki and Tesla, but alas.

And I could listen to Tomokazu Sugita ham it up all day as Solomon lol.

A lazy millennial who's good at what he does.
Arha Since: Jan, 2010
#29719: Dec 18th 2018 at 5:10:40 PM

Pretttty sure the artist was like "I was asked to draw a loli baba and I was super happy about it!"

So yeah. But fine, call her a petite adult if you want.

Edited by Arha on Dec 18th 2018 at 7:11:02 AM

BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: Jun, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
CHADhan Player.
#29720: Dec 18th 2018 at 5:18:56 PM

I've literally never heard that explanation. Everybody has said she's based on Aoi Yuuki.

A lazy millennial who's good at what he does.
Nouct insert commentary here from an east coast Since: Sep, 2014 Relationship Status: Tell me lies, tell me sweet little lies
insert commentary here
#29721: Dec 18th 2018 at 5:21:55 PM

It's Raita's artist comment for Shuten's material profile.

I requested to draw a lolibaba that speaks in Kyoto dialect and who acts lively yet restrained, so I am thankful to get the OK for her appearance to only put on a kimono over her practically naked body.

Edited by Nouct on Dec 18th 2018 at 5:22:23 AM

BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: Jun, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
CHADhan Player.
#29722: Dec 18th 2018 at 5:27:42 PM

Oh, well ok then.

A lazy millennial who's good at what he does.
raziel365 Anka Aquila from The Far West Since: Nov, 2011 Relationship Status: I've been dreaming of True Love's Kiss
Anka Aquila
#29723: Dec 18th 2018 at 5:30:24 PM

The details written in the Ink-Suit Actor bullet of her folder in the Assassin's page says that she shares the same height and style of hair as Aoi Yuuki; I saw a picture of Aoi and, yes, she does resemble Shuten-douji but I can understand if someone digresses.

Edited by raziel365 on Dec 18th 2018 at 5:30:56 AM

Instead of focusing on relatives that divide us, maybe we should try to find the absolutes that tie us.
vicarious vicarious from NC, USA Since: Feb, 2013
vicarious
#29724: Dec 18th 2018 at 5:32:49 PM

Comun with that MVP sauce

Jeanne is lost in my memory on some BL thread when Apocrypha novels were being released so of course grain of salt since I can always be wrong

I should have added that calling Takeuchi a stalker is a bad joke on my part, of course he didn’t

Oh shit just realized what Muffins post meant, damn that’s awful for that person

Edited by vicarious on Dec 18th 2018 at 8:34:13 AM

RedSavant Since: Jan, 2001
#29725: Dec 18th 2018 at 5:39:23 PM

You'll forgive me for not expecting Japan to be the most precise when it comes to drawing terminology divisions between "loli" and "petite woman". Regardless of what Raita calls her, it comes down to how you personally view her art. (After all, Raita also considers Raikou's art attractive.) But really, this is the kind of difference of opinion where I think the only thing to do is to move on.

Is it just me, or do the Christmas stages give a crapton of Bond points? I'm considering sneaking a Chaldea Lunchtime in.

It's been fun.

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