General Indiana Jones Thread

Also wouldn't Indy be dead from being banged around inside the fridge?

I viewed it as an Elemental Rock-Paper-Scissors thing. An atomic bomb is this massively powerful, unstoppable force ... except they're weak against lead, ergo, being in a lead lined refrigerator means you're safe.

The fridge thing never bothered me, as immediately before that, Indy survives riding several miles on the top of a jet engine, so durability was established.

Crystal Skull is just a boring movie to me, which I consider more tolerable than a movie that actively annoys the shit out of me like Temple of Doom.

I thought the backlash against Mutt had more to do with him being a rather stereotypical greaser bad boy who was clearly set up to be teased as Indy's replacement (see the hat grab at the end of the movie), and no one was really enthusiastic about the prospect.

Also, I think audiences just felt Shia just could not match up to Ford.

The part I really didn't like most was that they made Indy so old and past his prime. The villain made up for a lot of that, though.

Edited by Redmess on Nov 21st 2022 at 6:05:13 PM

My biggest issue with Crystal Skull is that despite trying to portray Indy as past his prime, they basically turned him into a invincible superhero which removed the tension.

That said I actually like Crystal Skull. I find it an enjoyable but flawed film.

Honestly I thought Crystal Skull was the weakest of the four films. My ranking for the series is Last Crusade, Raiders of the Lost Ark, Temple of Doom, and then Crystal Skull. Temple of Doom was decent, except for the blonde lady (Willie I think her name was. Freya's tits was her character awful) IT certainly wasn't as good as Last Crusade or Raiders but it was pretty cool.

Edited by MarkVonLewis on Nov 21st 2022 at 11:56:45 AM

Really? You didn't mind all the racist stereotyping of Indian culture and religion?

I think you can realize Temple of Doom has an inaccurate/racist stereotyping of Indian culture and religion while still placing it above Crystal Skull.

Yeah Temple of Doom isn't great in that regard, but as an action adventure film it's decent.

I have forgotten most of it. I guess that means it's high time for a rewatch!

All I can remember about Temple of Doom is the ending and the scene with the heart

I remember the heart scene and Willie being abused by the elephant, as well as them freeing a bunch of slave children.

Temple of Doom's blatant racism is just too much for me to stomach, and that's kind of saying a lot when the film series has already been criticized for playing a lot of colonialist tropes straight.

Last Crusade is probably the *LEAST* bad about it, but it's my personal favorite just for the humor, the banter, and the thrills.

Last Crusade more then makes up for Temple of Doom I think,definately feels like they knew how divisive it was and needed to Win Backthe Crowd

I feel like Temple of Doom spent a little too long in the titular temple. All that time spent continuously in dark, underground tunnels, got to be a bit wearying.

Trivial, but one nitpick I've always had with Temple Of Doom is that it's supposed to be a prequel, despite no obvious indication that it's supposed to be one (aside from the date seen at the beginning).

I never really understood the reasoning behind making it a prequel. Spielberg claimed it was because he didn't want Nazis to be Indy's enemy again.... but, he could easily have just made the antagonists not Nazis.

I would note that Raiders of the Lost Ark's year is very significant in terms of Nazi timeline. 1936, that was the year of the Olympics in Germany. A year where everyone got a glimpse into the Nazi regime, which was sanitized deliberately by Hitler to hide the antisemitic atmosphere from the world.

And from that year on, the world begins focusing on Nazi Germany's growing ambition for world domination. 1938 and 1939 was dominated by the Munich Conference and the beginning of World War II in Europe.

There's also another reason why 1935 was chosen. 1937 was the beginning of the Second Sino-Japanese War, and Shanghai was the location of the first battle between National Revolutionary Army and the Imperial Japanese Army. And it was one of the bloodiest battles in World War II. So yeah, you'll be trading Nazi Germany for Imperial Japan in the opening days of World War II.

Thus, it was a safer bet to choose 1935 for Indiana Jones to be on the other side of the world.

Edited by Shadao on Nov 21st 2022 at 8:21:29 AM

I always had the feeling they made it a prequel because they wanted to avoid answering where Marion and Brody were, letting it stand as another adventure instead of being an Immediate Sequel or Soft Reboot like the Bond films. That does retroactively make you wonder what became of Short Round and Willie in Raiders, but possibly trying to trick the audience with them not surviving. Marion obviously remained as Indy's true love, while Willie always came across as a fling doomed to fail long term.

Edited by EmeraldSource on Nov 22nd 2022 at 4:47:58 AM

Phoebe Waller Bridge's character revealed for Indy 5, Helena, Indy's god daughter

Brody's daughter maybe? Indy didn't seem to have that many close friends.

Apparently the title has now been revealed. It’s Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny, though unfortunately I currently can’t find this confirmed anywhere online.

What a terrible title.

its an alien's TV that predicts the future!

Please have it be about Indy trying to retrieve a magical soap bar.