That sucks. I really liked Katy Keene, it was sweet and fabulous. I'd argue that it was better than Riverdale. At least no one kept harping about serial killer genes on that show. 
So much for that slightly clunky Backdoor Pilot episode that introduced Katy.
I liked it better when Questionable Casting was called WTH Casting Agency
Warning for spoilers.
Some information leaked from a casting call for Season 5
◊. The casting call reveals that Archie had shortly been in the Army, and we will see him running the local fire department. The leak also reveals information about the shooting schedule.
So I binged the whole series on Netflix just to better understand videos on Youtube making fun of it, and I have to say I get it.
The show has potential in some areas, but suffers from adding so many different plot threads, that it doesn't seem to really be able to conclude any of them in a satisfying way.
The way it divides up screentime is really weird, and Kevin and Toni, in particular, are really underutilized compared to what their connections and roles in the story are apparently supposed to be.
Also have to agree the whole "Mr. Honey was actually good all along" didn't follow at all from anything we had seen.
There's also it's downright bizarre plots and dialogue.
I misheard KO and thought he called Archie a "Red Ho".
Where did Reggie get that gimp mask?
Yeah I guess there was no sense in dragging out the Betty/Archie drama.
Jelly Bean's going to turn out to be the killer, isn't she?
According to Deadline
, Riverdale's return has been delayed to Wednesday, August 11, to finish off its fifth season.
Riverdale Creator Roberto Aguirre-Sacasa’s Father Taken by Nicaragua Police.
The CW’s Riverdale Creator Roberto Aguirre-Sacasa took to social media to ask for help in figuring out what happened to his father, journalist Francisco Aguirre-Sacasa. His father has been missing for 10 days in Nicaragua and is believed to be in the custody of the government there.
“My father has had a political career and most recently has been working as a pundit and a journalist covering the state of Nicaragua and its relationships to other countries,” said Roberto Aguirre-Sacasa to Deadline in reaching about what has happened to his father. “He’s been a vocal critic of the current regime under President Daniel Ortega who is governing with his wife as his vice president. Nicaragua has been in a bad, bad, way.”
He continued, “About 10 days ago, I was flying back to Los Angeles from the East Coast, where I was scouting locations for Pretty Little Liars when I got an emergency call from my sister Georgiana. She told me our father had been arrested or kidnapped, as he and our mom were driving to Costa Rica to board a flight to Washington, D.C., where my father was to have surgery.”
“Around 15-20 minutes after his passport was taken, a statement was released saying our father was under investigation for treason and for being an enemy of the state,” said Georgiana. “He was supposed to return to his house where they’d follow up with him and see how to move forward in a case against him. But they didn’t.”
They were then stopped a second time by National Police, who detained Francisco. He has not been heard from since. Roberto and Georgiana have said that their father’s documents and computers were taken by police.
“We believe he is being kept as a political prisoner with an estimated 30 other people who have been detained similarly in past months in the lead-up to Nicaragua’s election in November,” said Roberto Aguirre-Sacasa. “The current administration has been arresting anyone who attempted to run against Ortega or who have been speaking out against him and those who are fighting for a free democratic election. They’ve been disappeared. We believe he’s being kept at the infamous prison called El Chipote, where my mom has visited every day bringing food, water, and medicine for our father. She’s been denied each time and the food and medication refused.”
“By speaking up, we’re trying to do what our father was doing. We want to bring attention to what’s happening in Nicaragua. We hope that he will not suffer because we’re speaking out,” Roberto said. “If they’re going to put him under arrest, we ask that he be allowed to do home arrest where he can take his medications. We just want to be in contact with him. We ask that they free him and the other prisoners. Our father is also a grandfather, a brother, and a son. We want him to get home safely.”
So, what is going on in Nicaragua and who is Daniel Ortega?
Ortega is a former leader of the Sandinista National Liberation Front, a leftist group that wanted to reform Nicaragua. Ortega pursued programs of nationalization, land reform, wealth redistribution, and literacy during his first period in office. But it was a presidency marred by conflict and economic downfall. He was defeated in the 1990 general election by Violeta Chamorro but remained a prominent figure in politics. In 2006, he was elected again and transformed into a complete despot.
Tim Rogers wrote for The Atlantic: “He then completed his palace coup by assuming full control of all four branches of government, state institutions, the military, and police. He banned opposition parties, rewrote the constitution, and turned Nicaragua into his personal fiefdom, which he rules from inside the walls of his stolen compound, a concrete fortress he rarely leaves.”
Both Amnesty International and the Inter-American Commission on Human Rights of the Organization of American States reported that Ortega had responded to protests against him with violence since 2018.
The New York Times shared that “Most of the latest political detainees have been held under Nicaragua’s so-called “Guillotine Law,” which since late last year has allowed the government to accuse any citizen of working for foreign powers and fomenting unrest without having to produce evidence.”
It is a haunting situation, and we hope that Roberto Aguirre-Sacasa will get answers soon and that their father will be returned to them safely.
A certain teenage witch is joining Season 6 of Riverdale...
Season 5's finale wasn't as endearingly bonkers as Season 3's, but it was definitely up there.
I am all for the spooky witch stuff going on with Cheryl and her family.
It's about time that one of Hiram's dumb detonator schemes worked.
You know, there's a rather bizarre subset of Riverdale fans who seem to insist that only Season 1 was good, and everything else was bad.
But like, I'm sorry, if you think Archie having stage fright with his guitar is better than Edgar Evernever in THAT get up having a rocket ship to fly away from the FBI...I just think you're probably not very fun at parties.
Not everything has to be Citizen Kane.
I have to agree. Super Eyepatch Wolf made more or less the same point in his retrospective of the series; The show is much better when it goes hard on the So Bad, It's Good nature of the writing that anything less is just mediocre. Which is why I'm interested in Sabrina coming to the show. Making the magic real for once can only give us more campy goodness.
King of Anime
I can't really judge the show much since I dropped it mid season four but, nah, even if I'm just judging the first three seasons the first is the best and the show started to drop in quality around mid season two, if not earlier. Like season two was still better than season three but neither was as good as season one.
I think its kind of fair, because even with the insane parts like Edgar Evernever's rocketship you also have stuff like Alice's character arc in that season, where apparently the actress wasn't even told it was fake until the very end.
At least with just the first season the character writing is a bit more consistent.
I don't mind some of the sudden turns in characters, but when it ties back into the relationship drama it can be pretty annoying.
"But if that happened, Melia might actually be happy. We can't have that." - Handsome Rob
I imagine if you care about story and character, you'd prefer season 1 over the remaining seasons which just run on one shocking twist and crazy moment after another. Obviously, both have their appeal for different people.
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Maybe we just have different definitions of "good". You seem to like more coherent storytelling, emotional resonance and events logically proceeding.
I happen to like serial killer half brothers, gargoyle cults, mutant bear men, and Edgar Evernever's Rocketship.
IMO, the character drama moments kind of...enhance the off the wall nature. Like, we're having a serious character moment here I suppose...right after aliens and the Rat King and mole men.
Honestly, if Riverdale turned back into what it was in Season 1, I wouldn't watch it. That's just not the kind of show I want to see it be.
King of Anime
Maybe. I dropped Sabrina after the first episode of season three because I thought it was too campy and over the top compared to the previous two seasons and I preferred the failed Katy Keene spinoff to the later seasons of Riverdale. Of the three and a half seasons of Riverdale I did watch I like season one the most and while I'm not a fan of the second season I definitely think it's better than season three and what I've seen of season four.
I mean, Riverdale is rarely ever boring (post-timeskip exempted) which is different from "good."
Author of The Rules of Supervillainy, Cthulhu Armageddon, and United States of Monsters.
Yeah, if I had to say which seasons are the most insane and entertaining, I'd say Season 3 and Season 5 - Season 4 unfortunately crammed most of the insanity into one episode (episode 3).
I'd go so far as saying Riverdale may be one of the most entertainingly ridiculous and ridiculously entertaining series on TV.
The world will be a more bleak place when series like Riverdale stop being made.
I'd argue what I dislike about the last season isn't how ridiculous it is. It's the fact the gang is all doing their own plots and not helping one another.
Author of The Rules of Supervillainy, Cthulhu Armageddon, and United States of Monsters.
Barb / Temporary Kylo
So Rivervale was a fresh fix of insanity that left me just feeling nice. I mean, Satan dragging Reggie off to Hell after the Great Hell Shuffle was hilarious fun and I loved it.
I don't watch Riverdale, nor have much interest in seeing it, but my roommate just told me she went to school with cast member Madelaine Petsch (according to her IMDB profile she's from Washington like us, so... *Shrugs*).
That's it, all I wanted to post.
With all the memes about women choosing a bear over a man, Hollywood might wanna get on an 'East of the Sun and West of the Moon' adaptation
So uh. I think I kind of love Season 6. Even more than I loved Season 3.
So Riverdale now has time travel, and the main villain is an evil immortal mind controlling wizard, who Tabitha got in a sword fight with using the Lance of Longinus.
...wow.
I knew about it, but didn't watch it unlike Sabrina. I was thinking about watching it since I heard Hiram shows up at the end.
I'll probably still watch it eventually since its only 13 episodes.
"But if that happened, Melia might actually be happy. We can't have that." - Handsome Rob