Diversity and Representation in Media

A lot of people were crying "misandry" at Wonder Woman because of a female director and the all women screening. It's died down since the movie came out but there was a lot of toxicity tossed at the movie and anyone associated with it. Gal Gadot faced a lot of bodyshaming for being as buxom as comic Diana.

Edited by windleopard on Feb 19th 2019 at 10:01:24 AM

...Wait, this is the first time that people here heard about that insult.

...I might hang out in awful places, but is one that I've seen a lot.

There some that are just memes ,like this one◊. But others legit treat it as a criticism to the movie and as a Brie Larson's personal flaw.

Edited by KazuyaProta on Feb 19th 2019 at 1:22:14 PM

The person who made that does realise Peter is meant to be a teenager right?

Is a meme, don't make too sense.

Again, I'm a SMT fan, so I see memes endorsing ephebophilia from time to time.

Anyway, I doubt the OG author of the pic was legit shipping Tony and Peter, just making a joke about the actors. Which I'm fine with as long is just silly laughts and not acting as Brie' body is somehow a issue.

I love when bigoted nerds try to pass their bigotry as meritocracy by poiting stuff made by minorities that they like. Is such a easily BS trap, but so many people fall for it.

"I like [minorty character], so I can't be a bigot" is the fictional equvialent of I have [minority] friends

Edited by KazuyaProta on Feb 19th 2019 at 1:32:57 PM

I don't think that the Captain Marvel hate is really about Captain Marvel alone. One has to know that Brie Larsson is very active in the help of woman who survived rape/sexual assault aso. She is extremely outspoken about sexual harassment at the workplace, and she is one of those actors who have a tender which demands a certain level of diversity for the people who are working at a movie she has been cast in. A LOT of the hatred which is thrown against the movie, is more about her than anything else. They just hide behind the "it is the downfall of the MCU" narrative because this way, people who are happily jumping on everything negative regarding the MCU and a few idiots who truly think that the downfall of Star Wars was in any way related to gender politics and not to bad writing are drawn into this and happily carry their toxic message.

The good news is that first reactions to Captain Marvel are in and they are extremely enthusiastic. Not "I loved it but there might be X problem" but "ohmygod that was awesome" enthusiastic.

To be fair, MCU movies get this sort of hype all the time.

Frankly, I'm not as taken in, I think most MCU films are disposable action/comedy trash regardless of politics.

Edited by Zarius on Feb 20th 2019 at 6:19:07 AM

... you’re completely entitled to your opinion but calling them trash and saying those who disagree are “taken in” is a bit of a d*** move.

Edited by wisewillow on Feb 20th 2019 at 9:37:17 AM

Not the point. Nobody is forced to watch those movies. But they are popular, which currently makes them a target of the Anti-SJW movement. And those don't care about the quality of the movie, they only care about spreading hatred. And it would be great if the fandoms wouldn't allow them to grow by latching onto dissatisfaction with a franchise. Maybe another movie (after Fury Road) succeeding after all the doom saying will lead to people finally realizing that bad writing and not "forced diversity" is the problem.

"To be fair, MCU movies get this sort of hype all the time"

It does get grating doesn't it.

A highly mutable state of affairs. The MCU used to be the anti-sjw darling because it was a frequent target of progressive criticism (owing to it's popularity) and at the time Marvel was doing things like replacing Thor with Jane and Tony with Riri Williams and etc...

Edited by thatindiantroper on Feb 20th 2019 at 8:29:50 PM

Yeah, the Anti SJW used.to love the MCU, but with the most recent stuff, they are worried about that.

I can't remember any time at which people did their best to sink a Marvel movie for not being diverse enough. The closest is Doctor Strange, and nobody acted as if the movie would destroy the MCU.

It's Disney and it is popular and it features a very outspoken actress.

Weren't the anti-SJW angry at Thor for depicting one of the Nordic gods as black?

Edited by Lyendith on Feb 20th 2019 at 10:41:29 AM

Yep,it was the gate keeper dude

And the actor got flack when there was talk of him becoming the next James Blond.

A black James Bond?! Oh nooooooooes!!!!

Idris Elba is fantastic and I’m sad y’all didn’t know his name

While also being conveniently quiet about the other liberties taken like Thor being blonde instead of a redhead and Sif being a war goddess instead of an agricultural goddess.

To be fair, those two aspects were imported directly from the comics, whereas Heimdall's Race Lift was not (in fact he was also supposed to be Sif's brother in the comics, which the Race Lift also breaks).

Let's not forget the shitstorm that was the diverse casting for Peter's classmates in Spider-Man: Homecoming. Those people were freaking out over the mere possibility of a black MJ.

Ryan Coogler got surprised by a young fan dressed as Shuri during an interview[1]

Absolutely adorable. That's the kind of moment he must've dreamed of.

Beautiful. Absolutely beautiful.

"One Day At A Time" is at risk of cancellation.

The police have formally charged Jussie Smollett with disorderly conduct and filing a false report.

Just...why would you do that?

Idiot.

Correction: he is accused, not charged.