Kaleidoscope Eyes v. Eye Color Change

I'm doing some clean up for the Kaleidoscope Eyes page, since many of the examples don't show the trope as defined (eyes that change color in response to emotional state) and instead include a bunch of mis-identified Eye Color Change examples. Usually ones involving eye color changes in response to using a superpower, or entering a combat mode. I just want to check some things:

1) Some examples are technically emotional states, if one counts an eye color change in response to overwhelming rage/determination and just that. No other emotional eye change is mentioned. Does it still count? How much shifting counts as a minimum?

2) Several examples, including borderline examples and false examples, are cross-listed as Eye Color Change, with the same text. I...don't think the same instance can count as two similar-but-different tropes at once but I can't find an FAQ that will definitively tell me one way or the other. Do I remove?

Kaleidoscope Eyes is, at its most basic, is when the eye changes to a lot of colors at different points. Usually it's by mood rings, but just as often it's just something that happens inexplicably.

Eye Color Change is its supertrope. For this trope, a lot of the time, the character involved only have 2-3 eye colors (with one of them being their "default") and the change often signifies something on the person. Kaleidoscope Eyes usually don't have "default" color.

Clear enough?

Eh, sort of? I now think there may be some more in-depth fiddling necessary. The description and the laconic both specify that Kaleidoscope Eyes is about emotional state being reflected in a change in eye color, not about other stimuli doing it. I'm currently working with that definition as I try to neaten it, since several entries were just "Character X's eyes change when they use their superpower" or "Character X's eyes change color when possessed by Character Y". It may come down to The Same But More Specific, since it's between "Character X has eyes that change color a lot" and "Character X has eyes that change color due to emotional state".

My immediate dilemma is that there are a couple of entries that I find borderline? A character has a determinator mode or a battle rage that changes their eye color and that's it—at no other time, for no other reason, emotional or otherwise does it happen. Many of them seem to be in the Anime section, so it's possible it's just an animation shorthand for certain handy emotional states.

Mood Ring Eyes may be a better definition if it's really about eyes changing color due to emotion. Page image doesn't reflect that either.

I thought it's about eyes that change all sorts of colors willy-nilly.

edited 24th Feb '16 4:34:27 PM by hellomoto

Yeah I expected this to be along the lines of stuff like this◊ where their eyes are different colors depending on how you view them.

I checked - that's Mizore Shirayuki from Rosario + Vampire. Videos of her don't actually show her eye color changing, so I say those are Technicolor Eyes.

Sadly, I can't find any videos of an eye changing colors, so just imagine this is an eye changing from brown to blue◊.

edited 24th Feb '16 5:51:03 PM by hellomoto

It is Technicolor Eyes, I was saying that is what I thought this trope was.

Also her eyes do change its various shades of blue in light, when the animators remember, they fluctuate between light blue and dark blue parts and sometimes the purple parts are completely gone. She is a Yuki Onna and her eyes are supposed to be colored like Ice crystals. but that is beside the point.

EDIT: Wow Yuki Onna doesn't exist, shocking, even The Other Wiki lists them like TV tropes does.

edited 24th Feb '16 6:04:03 PM by Memers

Yuki Onna is listed on Youkai with many of the other types. Could create a redirect.

Mood Ring Eyes looks like an alternate title, according to the bottom of the page. I agree that the picture (and even sort of the page quote) don't really fit with the trope. Like, I've done my time reading Sue-fics and so I understand the assumption behind the picture, but it really doesn't help.

Said quote (from Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds) really leans more to the "inexplicable frequent random color-changing" rather than the emotional based change the description gives. Since said page quote is the Trope Namer, I'm starting to wonder if a rename might be up for debate. Was the trope ever officially called Mood Ring Eyes, or did it come into being with the current name?

Bump.

If no one else wants to weigh in, I'll proceed tidying the page to fit the current description (emotional state change causes eye color change), and leave in the single-case changes for determinator or berserker modes (since they are based on an emotional state at root).