Needs Help: Cardboard Boxes

Gravity Is a Harsh Seamstress is for the cartoon gag of falling into a clothes line. Not the driving face first into one.

edited 14th Jan '16 7:07:20 AM by shimaspawn

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Just mentioned what Memers described at the end.

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As it stands, this article doesn't explain why cardboard boxes are a trope as opposed to an object that just so happens to exist. There is an attempt at one in there, I think. Cut and start from scratch through YKTTW.

^ I think this is overshooting. Take the explanation from 7 and you have all the explanations you need for this trope to exist.

Post #7 was advocating that the description there be the genesis of a YKTTW draft, not a finished article that belonged on the wiki proper.

Link to TRS threads in project mode here.

^ Still for me the trope is not in dire straits. Simply:

1. add your explanation for the narrative purpose
2. change the trope name to something more indicative
3. relink examples to new trope name. The examples themselves don't need fixing as far as I could see.

"Mystery Science Theater 3000 subject Future War is infamous for its fight scenes with huge stacks of boxes as far as the eye can see, which are all clearly empty."

That's an example of "there are cardboard boxes", nothing else. Nothing about this page is whole, there's just enough examples to be sent back to YKTTW.

1. The definition is terrible; an entirely new one needs to be written.
2. The name refers to a real life noun. Like an appearance trope, we'll see misuse for "noun is present".

We are essentially creating a new trope at this point, one inspired by a bit of People Sit On Chairs. Because we have multiple good examples of an actual trope, I advocate sending back to YKTTW instead of just cutting. The trope isn't getting renamed, it is getting created in the first place.

Link to TRS threads in project mode here.

It shares a naming convention with Sheet of Glass and Fruit Cart. They could all be considered to be named as if "X exists."

On the other hand, do we really need 3 separate tropes for "stock things to drive through in a chase scene?"

Stock Car Chase Obstacles would work nicely as a conglomerate.

No. That sounds like one of those stupid trope names only TRS would come up with.

While I wouldn't go that far, it does contain the phrase "stock car", which means something distinct.

Something like "(Standard) Chase Scene Obstacles", perhaps?

Chase-Scene Obstacle Course? Obstacle Course Chase Scene?

edited 2nd Feb '16 4:49:59 PM by shimaspawn

Reality is that, which when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. -Philip K. Dick

Chase-Scene Obstacle Course seems like the perfect way to trope Chase Scene and not implicitly allow zce of "chase scene in this film". Minimum context is "Z is chased by Y, and they encounter A as obstacles", right?

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^I like that definition. It'll at least make the ZCEs easy to see.

39 sounds like an actual trope, I approve.

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I like 39's idea.

39 actually sounds trope worthy. vote for rename.

Agreed.

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39

39 works well enough.

39

(Annoyed grunt)

Merged Trope description drafted: https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/discussion.php?id=u7eamfor8pqer06jzsut75tv

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So far, so good.

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