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Quag15 Since: Mar, 2012
#1: Sep 3rd 2015 at 7:09:46 PM

Well, apparently, Benicio Del Toro might play a villain role in Episode 8. Also:

Speaking with a Spanish outlet at Rac1.org, del Toro was asked what he has coming up on his schedule, and he again confirmed that he has a role in the movie, but added a bit of new information:

“Star Wars is coming up, we will see how that turns out. I think we start shooting in March.”

The reporter followed up by asking what his role would be, hoping for something juicy, but instead del Toro merely said:

“Ehhh, the thing is, they don’t let me talk too much about it. I’m like the villain. But we’ll see.”

We already have a lot to talk in the Episode 7 thread, but I figured I should kick-off the Episode 8 thread, since we'll have a lot more to talk about after December.

higherbrainpattern Since: Apr, 2012
#2: Sep 3rd 2015 at 8:24:33 PM

Well, since you started a thread for it already, I guess we can.

As I posted in the general thread a couple of days ago, Tatiana Maslany, Gina Rodriguez, and Olivia Cooke are shortlisted for a prominent role in Episode 8.

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#3: Jan 4th 2016 at 7:14:42 PM

[up]wild mass guess One, or all of them will play a Knight of Ren.

edited 4th Jan '16 7:14:50 PM by JackOLantern1337

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Kostya from Everywhere Since: Apr, 2011 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
#4: Jan 4th 2016 at 7:21:34 PM

I wonder what their roles will be. One will probably be a Knight of Ren and I can see another being part of the Resistance. No clue about what the third would do.

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#5: Jan 4th 2016 at 7:24:32 PM

I'd like to see more Knights of Ren as well, maybe so that we get a good indication that they're actually dangerous.

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Karxrida The Unknown from Eureka, the Forbidden Land Since: May, 2012 Relationship Status: I LOVE THIS DOCTOR!
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#6: Jan 4th 2016 at 7:25:34 PM

They killed a bunch of Jedi.

They were in training, but still.

If a tree falls in the forest and nobody remembers it, who else will you have ice cream with?
higherbrainpattern Since: Apr, 2012
#7: Jan 4th 2016 at 7:33:42 PM

Hell, maybe they were Jedi.

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#8: Jan 4th 2016 at 7:35:03 PM

I'm thinking they were Kylo Ren's friend group in the new Order and he convinced them to rebel with him.

edited 4th Jan '16 7:35:20 PM by Kostya

GethKnight from St Charles, Missouri Since: Apr, 2010 Relationship Status: Mu
#9: Jan 4th 2016 at 7:41:51 PM

I'd like it if they weren't connected to Luke's Order. Maybe be connected to the Inquisitors or First Order Dark Side users.

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JBC31187 Since: Jan, 2015
#10: Jan 4th 2016 at 8:19:36 PM

I was kind of hoping they were separate from the Jedi/Sith dichotomy. They seemed a lot like Sith to me.

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#11: Jan 4th 2016 at 8:23:44 PM

They're dark side users but I think it's pretty clear that they aren't Sith.

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#12: Jan 4th 2016 at 8:24:23 PM

The Visual Dictionary explicitly says they're not Sith.

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#13: Jan 4th 2016 at 8:26:35 PM

Sith follow a specific philosophy or something. The Knights are probably just Dark Jedi (or Ren and some acolytes).

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HamburgerTime The Merry Monarch of Darkness from Dark World, where we do sincerely have cookies Since: Apr, 2010 Relationship Status: I know
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#14: Jan 4th 2016 at 8:29:04 PM

[up] Sith = Extremist Randian Objectivism IN SPAAAAAAAACE, basically.

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KJMackley Since: Jan, 2001
#15: Jan 4th 2016 at 9:07:36 PM

The Sith, as far as the original EU was concerned, was a very specific form of Dark Side users that involved both galactic tyranny and rituals that contorted the natural force. Not to mention as far as their martial skills and brutality they were easily the most dangerous enemies to the Jedi. Most Dark Jedi were isolated individuals with the comparable skill level of a well-trained Padawan.

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#16: Jan 4th 2016 at 11:53:03 PM

The Sith are extinct.

Kylo Ren is a Dark Jedi.

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KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#17: Jan 5th 2016 at 1:57:29 AM

[up] Specifically, he's a Knight of Ren.

Well, apparently, Benicio Del Toro might play a villain role in Episode 8.

'General Organa, I'd like to introduce you to Taneleer Tivan. He says he's a collector from a far away galaxy, and he's offering to supply us a way to take down the First Order if we get him something called an Infinity Stone."

"The difference between reality and fiction is that fiction has to make sense." - Tom Clancy, paraphrasing Mark Twain.
higherbrainpattern Since: Apr, 2012
#18: Jan 5th 2016 at 6:12:16 AM

#DelToroForThrawn

edited 5th Jan '16 6:12:35 AM by higherbrainpattern

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#19: Jan 6th 2016 at 7:54:16 PM

Seconding that, actually. That would be a good character for him considering his style in the other films.

JBC31187 Since: Jan, 2015
#20: Jan 6th 2016 at 8:18:39 PM

I'm not really interested in seeing Thrawn. I don't mind if they name-drop him or something, but I don't want him as a main character.

GethKnight from St Charles, Missouri Since: Apr, 2010 Relationship Status: Mu
#21: Jan 6th 2016 at 10:14:34 PM

I can't see Del Toro as Thrawn. His head just doesn't feel right.

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KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#22: Jan 6th 2016 at 10:49:39 PM

Even if he doesn't play the Thrawn, him playing a Thrawn in the same way Ben composites Jacen (if that makes any sense) would be interesting.

I don't know too much about the character (I know a lot about his personality and skills from this site, but not much of what he actually accomplished), but what I do know of him sounds like it would make an excellent character in this point in the series. Especially since the First Order isn't technically affiliated with the Empire, having a brilliant Thrawn-esque leader rise from the Empire's ashes with designs on bringing it back to glory, but pragmatic enough to work with the Resistance to take out Snoke as a threat to his ambitions... I like it.

edited 6th Jan '16 10:50:35 PM by KnownUnknown

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#23: Jan 7th 2016 at 12:26:50 AM

Thrawn can figure out what battle strategies someone is going to use by looking at their planet's art.

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#24: Jan 7th 2016 at 12:40:35 AM

I always thought that was incredibly dumb because there are way too many variables involved.

If a tree falls in the forest and nobody remembers it, who else will you have ice cream with?
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#25: Jan 7th 2016 at 6:30:14 AM

They're redoing canon. THAT part they can erase, and I'm pretty sure it won't change the character himself in any meaningful way. He can still be a cultured badass without being the total Mary Sue who managed to just HUNCH his way into the final battle of his trilogy.


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