Netflix Daredevil

Now that it has debuted I see no reason not to give it it's own thread. So I am. Post as you will.

We actually discussed renaming the other thread into "Marvel's Netflix shows". It is a little bit useless to spread the discussion over multiple threats when the actual shows will be connected either way.

I think that thread would be better left for things concerning more than one show. Regardless, if people don't like my making the thread than they won't post. Simple as that.

Removed; posted on main thread.

edited 11th Apr '15 10:56:44 AM by Galadriel

That is also only the first episode and does not accurately describe how the character is in the rest of the series.

I think it's fair to have a separate thread; they're in no way lacking in content, and having the Netflix Marvel thread as one for the entire universe is fair - or deleting it and splitting the threads.

Anyway, I had NO IDEA Rosario Dawson and Charlie Cox had so much damn chemistry.

It just feels strange to watch a funeral for Ben Urich and for Peter Parker to not be there.

Also could that younger black man on the front of the casket possibly been a Ben Jr?

EDIT: Nevermind typed that second thing over the course of the ep 13 opening and my question got shot down 10 seconds later.

edited 11th Apr '15 4:40:08 PM by Canid117

I'm up to episode five, and I swear DD fights thugs in the exact same alley with the fence every time.

So, anyone else finds weird how they keep calling Hell's Kitchen a "city". I am not familiar with NY, but looking on the map, that is just a region within Manhattan, right? I've just compared and it is not actually smaller than where I live myself. But I would never call my neighborhood a "city". Feels too small for that. And far too connected to the actual city^note and my neighborhood is actually more geographically isolated than Hell's Kitchen is. So what is the deal? Why do the show keep acting like Hell's Kitchen is a place isolated from NY proper?

edited 11th Apr '15 7:40:44 PM by Heatth

I don't know. Perhaps it's because it got hit harder than the rest of NYC during the Chitauri invasion, and is now so different from the rest of the city that most ordinary people consider it to be a separate entity altogether?

From what I gather, the "city" they're referring to is just New York, but in the show canon (I'm not sure in real life), Hell's Kitchen is a sort of epicenter for all of New York's dealings, in specific criminal ones, so whatever goes down in Hell's Kitchen, affects the rest of New York

edited 11th Apr '15 7:55:50 PM by Gaon

Just watched episode 12. One more to go.

They killed Ben Urich! I can't believe it. And the worst part is, he didn't even die because Fisk thought he killed his lawyer buddy, which means Karen is still on the chopping block.

Shit gets real. I'll watch 13 soon.

The only name they ever say is "Hell's Kitchen, though. In context as of one talks about a city. Wilson Fisk is the most obvious example. He goes on about how he "wants to make his city a better place". But when talking about where he is from, and the place he loves, it is "Hell's Kitchen". If I didn't know better, I wouldn't even know there are all in New York city.

In other news, just finished episode 11. I wasn't expecting that ending. I almost feel sad for Weasley, though. I found his relationship with Fisk to be fascinating. To bad he ended up like that. Shouldn't have underestimated Karen. C An't fault him too much, though, he was clearly under a lot of stress

edited 11th Apr '15 8:35:15 PM by Heatth

Different sections of New York have that happen. People tend to identify a lot with the neighborhood they grew up in. People do the same thing with the boroughs of New York like Manhattan and Queens.

What I find weird is that it is not actually a big place. I don't think I would take even an hour to walk the whole thing across. And, going by the map, there isn't any meaningful divide from the neighboring regions. At last the boroughs are actually big, and somewhat geographically separated from each other.

It is pretty small. If you use that map comparison to look at your own location for a better comparison it becomes really clear. Hell's Kitchen is smaller than my local airport.

Yeah, it is smaller than my local (international) airport too. But, to be fair, international airports are quite big.

It may seem a little strange but as someone born and raised in New York I can tell you its pretty common here. Lots of people (myself included) when you ask them where they are from will mention their neighborhood first. They do this even before they mention the boroughs because the boroughs are so big. Brooklyn, Manhattan, and Queens especially so people say the neighborhood to make it easier to know witch part of the city they are from. Also while neighborhoods like Hell's Kitchen are small they are densely populated. There are more people living in some neighborhoods in New York then live in some states.

This is also important since different neighborhoods have different feels to them. Hell's Kitchen is in Manhattan but so is the financial district and Harlem. all these areas are different form each other. For most of its history Hell's Kitchen was an area of high crime and poverty. That has changed in recent decades but the series is showing that thanks to the damage caused by the Battle of New York the neighborhood is backsliding into what it used to be.

edited 11th Apr '15 11:22:55 PM by Wilahelm02

Just finished the 1st season. Overall it was a damn good watch, though I enjoyed the first part better for its violent noir-ish feel. The 2nd half seemed to have lost some of it but it was still entertaining all the same.

The thing is, I too live in a big city (Rio de Janeiro). Here we have neighborhood that are also densely populate and distinct from each other. WE do have regionalism, but this level of regionalism is not that common. When it happens it is either for bigger regions or for more isolated locations. Hell's kitchen is not only small but, on a map, you can't tell where it starts and where it ends. That is why I felt so weird how they keep treating Hell's Kitchen as it was its own city, instead of a small 2km² area mixed among many others.

Anyway, just finished the series. Great stuff. I hope some of these characters return in the Jessica Jones and etc.

Does anyone know what decade Matt's flashbacks to his childhood take place in?

edited 12th Apr '15 1:03:18 AM by KarkatTheDalek

No...the timeline is hard to pin down because we neither know for sure if it is set in 2015 (though it is definitely set after 2012), nor do we know how old Matt currently is, so knowing that he was nine when his father died doesn't help that much either. The only date I have found so far is 2010, which is the year in which Matt and Foggy meet the first time. But based on that and the usual age for starting to studying law, I guess the childhood flashbacks are set in the late 1990s.

What year did that song Foggy was listening to in the dorms come out? Matt would have been 18 or 19 when moving into the dorms.

Great series. I watched it in one day.

I was disappointed that the Avengers Tower wasn't there in the background. In the MCU the Avengers Tower replaced the real life Met Life building in New York, but in shots of the skyline the Met Life building was there instead.

Other than that very minor thing i loved everything about Daredevil and i'm now impatiently waiting for Jessica Jones.

edited 12th Apr '15 7:05:41 AM by TheLastEveryMan

Episode 12 spoilers: Really writers? You're just going to play Black Dude Dies First completely straight?