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eagleoftheninth Just stay away and you'll be safe from me. from a kingdom of self-isolation Relationship Status: With my statistically significant other
Just stay away and you'll be safe from me.
Feb 10th 2020 at 10:25:44 PM

Disney is sticking to the global release date, even if the Chinese film market stays closed.

Thing about the coronavirus crisis is that it forced the Chinese film industry to put its major Lunar New Year releases on hold - I personally got my Jiang Ziya ticket refunded on that weekend. Regardless of the final release date, Mulan might just end up having to compete with those movies when they come out.

Edited by eagleoftheninth on Feb 10th 2020 at 10:28:48 AM

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Mizerous Zappy Zappy Lady from Normura Land Relationship Status: Brewing the love potion
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Feb 11th 2020 at 5:51:16 PM

Ooof extra problems

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Feb 18th 2020 at 5:44:32 PM

According to the MPAA website, the live action remake of Mulan will be rated PG-13. It's the first live action remake to be given this rating.

https://www.filmratings.com/Search?filmTitle=mulan&x=0&y=0

dmcreif from Lewisburg, PA Relationship Status: I'd jump in front of a train for ya!
Feb 20th 2020 at 2:05:00 PM

Considering the genre of the movie, it makes a lot of sense.

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Feb 27th 2020 at 5:48:51 PM

Li Shang was removed from the movie because of the Me Too! movement[1]

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Feb 27th 2020 at 6:20:45 PM

If Unequal Pairing was a worry, they could have demoted him to Mulan's equal in the army. Literally no fans asked for him to be removed.

BrightLight Do that again and I'll kill you myself. from The Southern Water Tribe
Do that again and I'll kill you myself.
Feb 27th 2020 at 6:32:41 PM

[up][up] For frig's sakes, that's such a flimsy excuse, Disney!

Edited by BrightLight on Feb 28th 2020 at 3:32:57 AM

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Feb 27th 2020 at 6:45:48 PM

I agree. Shang was professional with Mulan throughout her time in the military. It was only when she was stripped of her status did he get interested in her.

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Tuckerscreator from Traveling through the Multiverse Relationship Status: Drift compatible
Feb 27th 2020 at 7:01:51 PM

Jeanette Ng had an interesting talk about how nearly every adaptation of The Ballad of Mulan gives her a love interest in the military.

And she recently posted her own translation of the poem.

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Feb 27th 2020 at 7:04:00 PM

It's ridiculous that they are removing Shang. They could've had it set up where Shang wasn't Mulan's love interest and still fight alongside her, while still having Mulan be a strong character.

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alliterator How dare you? from Southern California Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
How dare you?
Feb 27th 2020 at 7:44:56 PM

If Unequal Pairing was a worry, they could have demoted him to Mulan's equal in the army. Literally no fans asked for him to be removed.
I mean, that's literally what they did: ďWe split Li Shang into two characters. One became Commander Tung (Donnie Yen) who serves as her surrogate father and mentor in the course of the movie. The other is Honghui (Yoson An) who is [Mulanís] equal in the squad.Ē They just changed the name.

Wow, I didn't realize Li Shang was such a popular character. In fact, I didn't even remember his name — I just thought of him as "The Guy Who Sings 'I'll Make a Man Out of You.'"

Edited by alliterator on Feb 27th 2020 at 7:47:43 AM

"What, you think I won't fight a dinosaur? Are you crazy? All I want to do is fight dinosaurs." — Squirrel Girl
Feb 28th 2020 at 6:37:58 AM

I find it funny that #Me Too! is the excuse they used to now have Li Shang, but Disney had no problem with The Beast negging.

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Feb 28th 2020 at 6:41:36 AM

Yeah Shang was always encouraging to Mulan while Beast was just passive-aggressive to Bell.

Itís like some twisted-ass logic right there. [lol]

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alliterator How dare you? from Southern California Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
How dare you?
Feb 28th 2020 at 7:23:58 AM

Shang might have been encouraging, but he was also her superior officer. So either the relationship needed to go or he needed to change into a different character. Which is what they did.

"What, you think I won't fight a dinosaur? Are you crazy? All I want to do is fight dinosaurs." — Squirrel Girl
Feb 28th 2020 at 7:30:46 AM

I find it funny that #Me Too! is the excuse they used to now have Li Shang, but Disney had no problem with The Beast negging.

It's likely because people criticized them for the Beast and Belle's relationship they went this route.

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Bulla to Earthlings, Echalote to Saiyans.
Feb 28th 2020 at 7:33:10 AM

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It is still weak because he never used his status to force her into a relationship. There were hints that Mulan liked him and her feelings were hinted to have been returned when he returned to her house. However, at this point, it's just obvious they are using the Me Too movement as an excuse to pander to their CCP overlords.

Shonen Is Not Just For Boys, Even If Literally Means "Boy".
Feb 28th 2020 at 7:35:04 AM

Honestly asking, how likely is it that the CCP actually knows Shang is interpreted as bisexual by the fan base?

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Feb 28th 2020 at 7:37:54 AM

Considering that I didnít know that and Iím part of the fanbase, I doubt China gives a shit about that.

I say, fitting time for a nap, eh what?
JTTWlover No love for you from Chinese Heaven Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
No love for you
Feb 28th 2020 at 7:43:46 AM

Hey, guys, can anyone screenshot that Twitter post and post it? I canít see it.

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Feb 28th 2020 at 7:47:58 AM

I think the rationale used is questionable.

In the film, there's no real romance between the two to speak of until near the very end. Shang only makes anything that could be considered an advance when Mulan has left the army and saved China, and at that point he is no longer her superior.

It's the end of the world as we know it, and I feel fine. ...not really though.
alliterator How dare you? from Southern California Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
How dare you?
Feb 28th 2020 at 8:21:13 AM

Honestly asking, how likely is it that the CCP actually knows Shang is interpreted as bisexual by the fan base?
I mean, considering he was changed into another man who was a fellow soldier and also her love interest, I highly doubt this is the case.

"What, you think I won't fight a dinosaur? Are you crazy? All I want to do is fight dinosaurs." — Squirrel Girl
miraculous "Impaler. I have no equal." from South Africa
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Feb 28th 2020 at 9:15:26 AM

So is this is actually coming out in China on its release date after all...

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Feb 28th 2020 at 9:59:31 AM

The original poem never mentioned Mulan having a Love Interest, just a fellow soldier shocked that his companion was really a woman and he never realized it for 10 years.

So the loss of Shang isn't really much of a big deal for me.

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JTTWlover No love for you from Chinese Heaven Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
No love for you
Feb 28th 2020 at 10:11:14 AM

[up] Yup. It was short and simple. Heck, there was more content saying stuff about Mulan at home weaving than doing war.

Edited by JTTWlover on Feb 28th 2020 at 7:11:30 PM

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miraculous "Impaler. I have no equal." from South Africa
"Impaler. I have no equal."
Feb 28th 2020 at 10:26:59 AM

Does the original poem/legend have a central villain of any sorts ?

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