New DuckTales Animated Series

Wait, did someone actually say that The Shawshank Redemption was overrated because it refused to appeal to kids? Really? Because I could've sworn that even the original Stephen King story it was based on was targeted towards an older audience and wasn't meant for children at all.

^^That seems really confusing to me

Like, umm, why couldn't Ducktales be greatly written story for kids that happens to have adult fans instead of "Its not great because it appeals to more younger people than older people"

It is good point for example that Launchpad isn't that funny since he is treated pure comic relief as if he wasn't an actual character and that it is confusing that they are trying to make Scrooge a character whose popularity is partly because of his flaws rather goody two shoes while still having some elements of greed and such remaining. And it is also good point that two of the kids get excluded too much when it comes to their mother.

If show did those points better, it would still appeal to young kids as much, I don't see how fixing those would make it more popular for adults just because it would be better written <_< Its not like adults have particularly good taste just because they are adults. None of those flaws make target audience to be different.

Now if you complained about the whole family values thing, then yeah, you'd be wanting a completely different show, but its not like family aesop show is inherently "not great" just because its about how good family is.

Edited by SpookyMask on Dec 3rd 2018 at 6:42:15 PM

If directed to me, that's what I think, too. It's made for kids but it's good enough that there's an adult fanbase too.

Edited by sgamer82 on Dec 3rd 2018 at 10:00:44 AM

2 new pages? Aw come on. I gotta do... stuff.

Do they ... even have plans for Huey at this point? It seems they are intent on keeping him remaining on the sidelines.

I would wager that, since Dewey got a story arc in season one, and Louie appears to be getting a story arc in season two, that Huey is going to get a story arc in season three.

Surrre but .... it's Season 3, which is like a year away, and there are people who may not still be on-board with the show by then. People have tiny attention spans these days.

Edited by kyun on Dec 3rd 2018 at 9:51:14 AM

I think that is a terrible approach, to be honest. There is no reason why the focus should be on one triplet per season. Quack Pack, for all it's faults, managed three triplets with different personalities just fine, without having to resort to separating them constantly or having one steal the spotlight (as far as I can remember, at least, it's been a while).

Optimism is a duty.

Exactly. I remember saying when this show began that they were dealing with too many characters, and wanted to do too many things with all of them, one of which is turning them into sarcastic meta-phrasing in-jokes, because 2017. Giving one nephew an arc per season shows they're very confident in this show being successful.

I don't mind giving each an arc, per se, but it should not be to the excusion of the other two as much as this show is doing now. Also, it should not be implemented so strictly, as is done with the Della story, where only one triplet is allowed to have the role of Della's son.

Optimism is a duty.

And with Della obviously coming back to Earth one day, it seems this Dewey arc is gonna extend into Seasons 2 and 3! See what they've done??

Della's story should've been an arc concerning ALL the nephews! Yes, at the end of season 1 the other two find out and they all vow to work together on this from now on, but so far, I am not seeing that!

Edited by kyun on Dec 3rd 2018 at 10:11:07 AM

Speaking of the Della arc, it is high time they get back to that. I assume they want to wrap it up by the end of the season? Or would they be so bold as to extend it to season three?

Optimism is a duty.

Huey did already get a focus episode this season, to be fair.

So far I think they plan to use him as Louie's primary foil this season, like how Webby was Dewey's primary foil last season.

"The difference between reality and fiction is that fiction has to make sense." - Tom Clancy, paraphrasing Mark Twain.

They didn't forget. The last shots of the Christmas Episode is of Della promising she'll find a way to get to Earth one day.

I just thought the episode was cute. Past was a sympathetic villain, I loved emo Donald launching into a fit because his guitar got smashed, the twins being wise to time travel Donald keeping his sweater, Dewey learning a lesson, beakley x future otp, and loved launchpad's menorah sweater. Happy Hanukkah y'all.

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I know, but I don't feel that this episode really contributed to the arc. It was more a sort of flashback by proxy of Don and Della's youth, with a reminder at the end that the Della arc still exists.

It was emotionally effective, sure, but it didn't really move the arc forward.

I wonder if this episode would have been stronger if they had reduced the Christmas Carol part a bit, and did a past/present parallel story like they did in the Spy episode. I think the themes of family and Christmas spirit both past and present would have lent themselves really well to such a structure. They could even have worked the roles of Christmas Past, Present and Future into such a parallel structure, with Future serving as a link to the eventual conclusion to the Della arc.

Speaking of Christmas Future, I was wondering why he is so often depicted as Death, or something very close to it. It doesn't seem to fit very well with the other two spirits, who are very closely linked to Chri9stmas, while Future is more directly linked to (the end of) life in general.

Optimism is a duty.

Della getting back to Earth isn't really the main plot of the series, so it makes sense that it's moving very slowly. You can bet that her actually making it home is going to be the finale of the entire show, or close to it.

The arc in the first season was finding out about Della and dealing with the fallout, and that was resolved (though this episode is arguably an aftershock of it). The arc of this season, such as it is, seems to be something different.

I don't mind at all that they're taking it slow and going more for oneshots, at any rate. A show like this is only doing itself a disservice by being aggressively arc centric.

And for the episode itself, if this is the start of more development about Donald and Della's relationship, I'm all for it. How Donald feels about Della, beyond being pissed at Scrooge, was pretty much an empty point in the first season.

I think he originally meant to represent more the "fear of the unknown" - dark, formless and grim - which in the story includes but is not limited to death, but as time went on more and more he began being portrayed as more bluntly the Grim Reaper.

Edited by KnownUnknown on Dec 3rd 2018 at 1:33:17 AM

"The difference between reality and fiction is that fiction has to make sense." - Tom Clancy, paraphrasing Mark Twain.

Because he is more or less depicted that way in the original Dickens story.

I have to agree that the return of Della will likely coincide with the end of the show. Introuducing her as a full character would be problematic: either Della takes up a big role in the show, changing the relative status quo, or she basically becomes a secondary character (or, well, stays a secondary character, really). Either way, it is probably going to divide the fans. I think the writers feel that way, too, hence why they keep kicking that can down the road.

I think Della and Don's past is a much mroe interesting and fruitful topic for the show, at least for now.

Why would serialization be a disservice to the show? Isn't serialization somewhat of a holy grail in television these days?

Optimism is a duty.

I doubt it'll be the finale especially when they are showing her building something. A season finale is likely but running an entire series of that? It'll get old real quick.

Notcieably they used her being on the moon as a hook for this season at the end of the previous.

Edited by OmegaRadiance on Dec 3rd 2018 at 1:46:59 AM

Every accusation by the GOP is ALWAYS a confession.

Della returning would completely shake up the core dynamics of the entire series to the point where either it has to end soon after, or it would need to be the beginning of the end (a la Ford returning in Gravity Falls).

There's a chance that it could result in the status quo and those dynamics drastically changing, like Harvey Beaks tried to do (before being cancelled) and Kim Possible succeeded in, but networks hate that and writers are trained not to do it.

I figure, like Ford, her returning will basically be the moment that ushers in the final arcs of the series and sends it moving towards the finale.

Edited by KnownUnknown on Dec 3rd 2018 at 1:52:45 AM

"The difference between reality and fiction is that fiction has to make sense." - Tom Clancy, paraphrasing Mark Twain.

And with Della being a major new character, that counts out any chance of Daisy appearing. :D

Ford was a character kept hidden and foreshadowed for most of the show as part of the mystery. With him came the truth, and the truth meant the series conclusion was soon.

This is not a Ford situation, because the mystery was concluded at the end of the very first season instead of several seasons in. And it was done so we the viewers know it.

And the facts surrounding her disappearance were even answred innthe first season.

Edited by OmegaRadiance on Dec 3rd 2018 at 1:57:11 AM

Every accusation by the GOP is ALWAYS a confession.

To give a writing term, Ford being absent was the engine around which the entire show was built. The circumstances of why he was absent are less important than the fact that the series' storytelling and major characteristics relied upon that absence to exist.

Della is the same way. Arguably, she's even more of a case of that. Everything from the triplets' personalities to their reasons - or lack thereof - to have stake in the ongoing adventures, to their relationships with each other or to Scrooge and Donald, to the minor but significant things that would come up like everyone's living situations, are built in some or another upon Della's absence. Her not being present is pretty much the elephant in the room at any given moment.

Having her come back would be like changing the laws of physics: nothing would be the same afterwards. Her reappearing would change things up to such an extent that the writers would either have to tie those things up or put in a lot of legwork to change everything so that it still works as intended, even though she's now part of the picture. And again, networks hate that, so while it's possible I'd hesitate to call it likely.

Edited by KnownUnknown on Dec 3rd 2018 at 2:04:23 AM

"The difference between reality and fiction is that fiction has to make sense." - Tom Clancy, paraphrasing Mark Twain.

Exactly, which is why I won't be surprised if they renew this show for a third season and come up with an excuse to keep Della out of the picture for the next season.

Optimism is a duty.

Why would the return Donald's sister prevent the arrival of Donald's girlfriend?

I could see a couple ideas for using Della post return.

1. After everything that's happened, Della swears off adventuring and tries coping with real life. Whether by necessity, or even one or more of the boys pressuring her into doing so. A driving question being is the retirement Ten Minute or genuine?
2. Making up with the family she abandoned in her recklessness. If setting up Donald's relationship with Della is going to have a payoff, it'd be here.
3. She has to rehabilitate after being on the moon and its quarter Earth's gravity got a decade. She's weaker than she was.

My personal fear is if they bring back Della it'll be only for an episode or arc, only for her to be lost for some other reason Back for the Dead style.