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Darthwyn Ace Pilot from The void Since: Feb, 2016 Relationship Status: You cannot grasp the true form
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#926: Feb 26th 2019 at 8:39:35 PM

I would say it's not completely impossible to have some less tense things happen in the story. It is just a matter of having characters interact with characters they don't have a grudge against.

Examples would be Hitomi and Hayate or Kasumi with Marie.

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agent-trunks IHE from Every-where, but there Since: Apr, 2015
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#927: Feb 27th 2019 at 1:15:56 AM

Hating anime just because of fans shows that you have no idea what you are talking about.

That, and like Rob said, you have Trunks as an avatar. comes across as kind hypocritical, don't you think?

We had this conversation before, I'm not going to repeat myself


...but...your avatar is Trunks...

Trunks is one of my favorite characters of all time & I still think there's a lot of good anime characters out there regardless what the community thinks of them.


The story of DOA still shouldn't be taken all that seriously. The side characters are still doing silly things

WolfThunder Before the storm closes in, the wolf howls at th Since: Jun, 2013
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#929: Feb 27th 2019 at 1:56:24 PM

I'm hearing this got banned at EVO Japan. Also, the response Mr.Wiz gave is something else.

It also seems to have killed whatever chance the game had of getting into the American EVO this year. Which is kind of ironic since a lot of people suspected that toning down the fanservice on the default costumes was meant to try and make it more suitable for the competitive circuit.

I cannot think of a more badly mishandled PR stunt in recent memory.

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#930: Feb 27th 2019 at 2:04:17 PM

I can: "FUNCTIONS".

And stop saying Shimbori mishandled stuff. You should have known the guy entered Trolling Creator territory with his move at EVO Japan.

Edited by ZeroDozer on Feb 27th 2019 at 7:09:21 AM

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#931: Feb 27th 2019 at 2:05:10 PM

Wait. Why has it been banned at both EVO's?

What exactly happened? Did someone say something stupid?

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ZeroDozer Incinerate! ONE HUNDRED PERCENT!! from Santo André, SP, Brazil Since: Jan, 2015 Relationship Status: Owner of a lonely heart
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#932: Feb 27th 2019 at 2:06:47 PM

EVO doesn't like sexy women, that's why.

Not even news, considering the banned costumes on Street Fighter V tournaments.

Edited by ZeroDozer on Feb 27th 2019 at 7:07:23 AM

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comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#933: Feb 27th 2019 at 2:08:31 PM

And stop saying Shimbori mishandled stuff.
No.

[up][up]They were making a major push for DOA 6 to be in the esports scene, and the incident at EVO Japan seems to have killed that momentum.

Here's a rundown of what happened.

Edited by comicwriter on Feb 27th 2019 at 2:11:11 AM

agent-trunks IHE from Every-where, but there Since: Apr, 2015
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#934: Feb 27th 2019 at 6:47:36 PM

It was pretty juvenile of them to do that. There's plenty of times I do think it's fine for developer goofing around but that pretty dumb for them to do.

That being said, it's not like we're censoring MK now are we? Values Dissonance & all that good jazz

Beatman1 Since: Feb, 2014 Relationship Status: Gone fishin'
#935: Feb 27th 2019 at 6:48:22 PM

It could easily be the creator rebelling against the studio.

Yeah, EVO has double standards.

ShirowShirow Down with the Privileged🪓 from Land of maple syrup Since: Nov, 2009
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#936: Feb 27th 2019 at 7:42:39 PM

I mean it IS hard to be taken seriously if you have people competing in outfits more stripperiffic than string bikinis. I remember tournaments once tried listing which DOA costumes where allowed at a venue and it winded up being really random and scattershot. Given how MUCH DLC has been released for Last Round...

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#937: Feb 27th 2019 at 10:32:55 PM

Funny enough there were people seriously complaining about Jade wearing too much clothing. Even though she's a zombie. I guess there are some people who seriously get off to zombie porn?

[up]There was also the ESPN incident with one of Rainbow Mika's costumes, iirc.

Edited by comicwriter on Feb 27th 2019 at 10:36:30 AM

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#938: Feb 27th 2019 at 10:37:54 PM

I mentioned Jade being covered on the Mortal Kombat 11 thread. On the same post I also reminded myself she's still a Revenant.

But if you want a more valid complaint... Sonya.

Edited by ZeroDozer on Feb 27th 2019 at 3:38:40 PM

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ShirowShirow Down with the Privileged🪓 from Land of maple syrup Since: Nov, 2009
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#939: Feb 27th 2019 at 10:41:26 PM

I like Sonya's outfit. Given she wore a tactical vest in MK 9... And nothing else... It makes a lot more sense for her to be properly clothed.

Now if you're talking about the fact that her voice actor is more muscular than her... Now that's a valid complaint.

Hell, Mila probably wouldn't be a character if it weren't for people like Rhousey popularizing female MMA and yet she's still a twig too.

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#940: Feb 27th 2019 at 10:44:35 PM

I will say it's a shame about EVO, since apparently the main reason for the new close-up/slow-mo mechanic was to try and make the game more fun to watch as a spectator. It's a neat idea.

But if you want a more valid complaint... Sonya.

I've got zero problems with Sonya either. Really most of these strike me as kind of silly and overblown.

I remember tournaments once tried listing which DOA costumes where allowed at a venue and it winded up being really random and scattershot. Given how MUCH DLC has been released for Last Round...

I can only imagine.

Edited by comicwriter on Feb 27th 2019 at 10:50:28 AM

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#941: Feb 28th 2019 at 12:53:15 AM

[up][up] Yes, it's about how they slimmed Sonya into hell. Her clothes? Her clothes in MKX and 11 are the opposite of a problem. Now, small breasts and definitely almost no muscles for a woman supposed to be a military general who has been dealing with Outworld for over 25 years? I can't understand how people here are okay with this.

Edited by ZeroDozer on Feb 28th 2019 at 5:57:46 PM

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StarOutlaw Since: Nov, 2010
#942: Feb 28th 2019 at 9:38:43 PM

It almost sounds like the devs went "Don't make Sonya's breasts so big, we need to be respectable. Ooh, but don't make her too muscly, she still has to look pretty. Guys don't like butch girls." Kind of makes me wish Sheeva was in it. To MK's credit, I guess D'Vorah actually looks more mosntrous than sexy?

A sexy design is okay as long as it fits the character's personality. I remember when Overwatch was still in beta and Blizzard changed Tracer's win pose. It went from generic to rather cute, but wasn't less sexy and most people liked it better.

When it comes to DOA, I think most of the time the girls dress the way I'd expect them to, it's more that so many of the alt costumes are very fetishy. Otherwise, their default battle uniforms and their casual clothes tend to fit, with a few exceptions like Kasumi and Ayane's ninja gear.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: Aug, 2015
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#943: Feb 28th 2019 at 9:52:24 PM

[up][up] Its quite simply really, there's no difference.

I just looked at her X look & her current look. There's no noticeable slimming down as far I can tell & her clothes look normal, appearing tighter most likely because of the graphical improvements.

[up] Hell she looks even older now. She's more stone-faced, I can see some wrinkles, and her hair is a darker color implying it may be graying.

I mean I'm pretty sure being thin & being muscular are not exclusive states.

Edited by slimcoder on Feb 28th 2019 at 9:53:32 AM

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Vertigo_High Touch The Sky Since: May, 2010
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#944: Feb 28th 2019 at 11:02:14 PM

I do feel sonya could stand to be a bit more muscular, like you gotta sell she can split dudes in half with her legs lol.

HallowHawk Since: Feb, 2013
#945: Mar 1st 2019 at 8:36:06 AM

With regards to the argument I had with Marq FJA on Ayane's hobby of "Aesthetics", here's something I dug up in DOA wiki:

Throughout the series, Ayane's hobby in the Japanese versions has been stated as "エステ" (esute), which is an abbreviation of "エステティックサロン " (lit. "aesthetic salon"). In Japan, aesthetic salons are popular establishments where men and women go to receive a variety of non-surgical beauty treatments.

In the English versions of the games, her hobby is often translated as either "aesthetics" or "beauty treatments".

There you have it. What trope best describes Ayane's fondness for aesthetic salons?

FrozenWolf2 Since: Mar, 2013
#946: Mar 1st 2019 at 8:41:43 AM

Ayane likes to feel pretty and pampered

Edited by FrozenWolf2 on Mar 1st 2019 at 10:42:17 AM

ShirowShirow Down with the Privileged🪓 from Land of maple syrup Since: Nov, 2009
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#947: Mar 1st 2019 at 9:06:34 AM

She is introduced in NG 3 getting a massage in france.

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StarOutlaw Since: Nov, 2010
#948: Mar 1st 2019 at 2:11:02 PM

I don't know why I find that kind of cute. Ayane isn't any less feminine than the other girls other than her attitude. I kind of wonder if she likes feeling pampered because of her backstory, being an unwanted child and outcast envying Kasumi for being the princess of their ninja clan. Maybe I'm looking too much into it, but oh well.

Just got 6 on Steam and downloading...

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#949: Mar 1st 2019 at 2:28:34 PM

I thought Tecmo Koei limited the game to Windows 10-only (as in "no Steam").

Edited by ZeroDozer on Mar 1st 2019 at 7:29:11 AM

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HallowHawk Since: Feb, 2013
#950: Mar 1st 2019 at 4:41:15 PM

[up][up]

Just got 6 on Steam and downloading...

Fair warning: I've seen walkthroughs of the story mode and the way a next chapter can be unlocked will cause you to backtrack to the previous chapter. Let's just say the order on how the story ought to be shown is more messed up than 5 to say the least.


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