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DrDougsh Since: Jan, 2001
#51: Mar 31st 2015 at 4:07:03 AM

He won't necessarily die. It's possible that Jimmy will ultimately have Chuck convicted to a mental asylum, like that doctor suggested, and use the resignation fee to start his career as Saul.

By the way, has it ever been explained who the other Hamlin in "Hamlin, Hamlin and McGill" is? Howard's sibling, or maybe his parent?

edited 31st Mar '15 4:09:29 AM by DrDougsh

DrDougsh Since: Jan, 2001
#52: Mar 31st 2015 at 1:31:00 PM

I think the latest episode just became this series' first legitimate Wham Episode.

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#53: Mar 31st 2015 at 4:40:06 PM

Ow my feels. Chuck is a dick ;_;

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#54: Apr 1st 2015 at 3:00:45 AM

[up][up] Tuco appearing out of nowhere not counting? Though that wasn't really the whole episode so much as just the ending of one.

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DrDougsh Since: Jan, 2001
#55: Apr 1st 2015 at 4:57:49 AM

That hasn't really amounted to that much in the grand scheme of things. Plus, I don't know if the very first episode can logically be a Wham Episode. There has to be an established status quo to upset.

Soble Since: Dec, 2013
#56: Apr 2nd 2015 at 5:00:56 PM

It just occurred to me that Nacho is the kid that almost drowned in one of the flashbacks, just so that Hector could prove a point.

Tuco ends up hot-headed and reckless, Nacho is a cool glass of water, able to wait, able to recognize danger.

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#57: Apr 2nd 2015 at 7:18:13 PM

[up] No, that was the twins Marco and Leonel.

The only (possible) mention of Nacho in the original series was when Jessie and Walt kidnapped Saul, brought him out into the desert in front an open grave, and Saul, (assuming they were from the Cartel) started screaming "No, it was Ignacio! He's the one you want!"

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#58: Apr 4th 2015 at 8:53:29 AM

Yeah, that was how the twins were taught loyalty to each other and the family (presumably it was one of many such incidents).

It's unclear what happens to Nacho other than that he's not around at the time of Breaking Bad. It could be that the character's name is meant to be that mysterious Ignacio or if it's just a one-off reference.

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DrDougsh Since: Jan, 2001
#59: Apr 5th 2015 at 9:10:05 AM

If he is that same Ignacio, we could take Saul's line as confirmation that he won't die during this series.

Actually, Saul's line seems to hint that Nacho will have a falling out with Tuco and the cartel, to the extent that Saul expects the cartel to be searching for him. Nacho is already trying to run his own operation behind Tuco's back (somewhat clumsily so, as both Saul and Mike can tell), so it does seem likely that things won't end too well for him.

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#60: Apr 5th 2015 at 6:59:57 PM

Oh my God, Chuck is a fucking asshole!

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#61: Apr 5th 2015 at 7:03:33 PM

It became readily obvious that he was after the flashback to when Jimmy passed the bar.

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#62: Apr 7th 2015 at 5:04:35 PM

Now I'm curious if all of Howard's interactions with Jimmy have a Rewatch Bonus vibe to them. Like, if I went back and watched all his scenes would it show that he was really a nice guy all along.

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Soble Since: Dec, 2013
#63: Apr 7th 2015 at 5:31:35 PM

Aw, I liked my symbolism. My bad. That flashback was shown when the Twins were still active, wasn't it.

I missed what Jimmy said right at the end as he was driving away. The rest seemed suspiciously lackluster.

edited 8th Apr '15 5:07:29 PM by Soble

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Soble Since: Dec, 2013
#64: Apr 8th 2015 at 5:08:52 PM

So, this.

Also, I just noticed: all of this season's episode titles have an "o".

Oh. What's that mean, you ask? I have no idea. Uno, Mijo, Nacho, Hero, Shepherd Boy, Five-O, Bingo, Rico, Pimento, Marco.

edited 8th Apr '15 5:09:00 PM by Soble

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#65: Apr 24th 2015 at 10:18:32 PM

I just realized that Jimmy's howl, used as a signal for Marco to get ready, is styled after the opening of Deep Purple's Hush. Dunno of Lugo's voice actor proposed it.

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#66: Feb 15th 2016 at 8:59:11 PM

Alright, and we're back.

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#67: Feb 16th 2016 at 8:49:11 PM

Gotta say, while I enjoyed this episode thoroughly I couldn't help but feel like it backpedaled somewhat, what with Jimmy going back to take the job at Davis and Main. Still, all the callbacks to Breaking Bad were fun and entertaining.

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#68: Feb 18th 2016 at 11:05:00 AM

I was surprised by Jimmy going back to the legit law firm, but it makes sense that Kim would, however indirectly, wind up nudging him towards it.

So, what's going to happen to alienate her or overcome her being the good angel on his shoulder?

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Soble Since: Dec, 2013
#69: Feb 23rd 2016 at 6:39:58 AM

Oh god, the squat cobbler.

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#70: Feb 23rd 2016 at 8:53:58 AM

This show continues to be comedic gold.

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#71: Mar 9th 2016 at 6:40:17 PM

The thing I don't get is what's so great about Tuco going to jail for only five years, it's a temporary solution.

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#72: Mar 9th 2016 at 10:03:27 PM

It gets him out of the picture well enough for Nacho to not have to worry about him finding out about his side business. Plus, Tuco was becoming a liability with his increased drug use, it was either jail or a bullet to the head. Given what happens in Breaking Bad, Mike probably learned his "no half measures" rule from the repercussions of this decision.

Apart from that, we'll continuity.

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StateOfBedlam Since: Jul, 2015
#73: Mar 10th 2016 at 12:21:14 AM

The thing I don't get is what's so great about Tuco going to jail for only five years, it's a temporary solution.
This will likely be a contributing factor to Mike internalizing the notion of "no half measures."

EDIT: I should have read more carefully before posting. [nja]

edited 10th Mar '16 12:24:08 AM by StateOfBedlam

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EruditeEsotericist Since: May, 2015
#74: Mar 10th 2016 at 10:12:38 AM

Eh? It was pretty clear in Breaking Bad that Mike's "no half measures" thing came from the guy he let go who beat his wife to death. Though there could well be other factors, this among them. We know Nacho isn't around by the Breaking Bad era, though what happens to him is anyone's guess.

Nice little Continuity Nod there, with Krazy 8 not actually being named, so you wouldn't get it unless you knew Breaking Bad. But then again, almost everyone watching the show probably does know Breaking Bad.

StateOfBedlam Since: Jul, 2015
#75: Mar 10th 2016 at 3:27:15 PM

[up] That happened while he was on the force, and now we know he didn't really learn that lesson until later. It's a much less convoluted example to explain to Walt.

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