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maxwellelvis Mad Scientist Wannabe from undisclosed location Since: Oct, 2009 Relationship Status: In my bunk
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#26: Nov 3rd 2014 at 4:48:36 PM

I don't know either. I think Eren became a Shifter when he got eaten and shat out and survived.

Of course, don't you know anything about ALCHEMY?!- Twin clones of Ivan the Great
NapoleonDeCheese Since: Oct, 2010
#27: Nov 3rd 2014 at 5:39:27 PM

Actually, that makes me think: what about the Marvel anime ? Were they written by actual japanese writers or americans?

IIRC, scripted by Japanese from the plot outlines set by Warren Ellis and a team of American writers.

Theokal3 Since: Jan, 2012
#28: Nov 3rd 2014 at 5:48:53 PM

[up][up]Well, I had the feelings him being eaten was the cause of him becoming a Shifter. It just triggered the trauma recquired to unlock powers I assume he already had all along.... or something like that.

[up]Okay, thank you for clarifying^^

SpookyMask Since: Jan, 2011
#29: Nov 3rd 2014 at 11:53:30 PM

I thought he shifted because his dad put syringe into him and it was just activated when he was eaten <_<

Theokal3 Since: Jan, 2012
#30: Nov 4th 2014 at 2:05:25 AM

[up]Yeah, that was my feeling too.

Cronosonic (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#31: Nov 4th 2014 at 6:53:30 AM

The Titans, while they won't nearly be as much threat in the Marvel universe (as opposed to their home universe, where you need to be extremely skilled to not have a high chance of getting horrifically killed and eaten), are still a big problem. While they mostly lack intelligence, they are strong, regenerate no matter what if the nape is intact, and, well, are basically huge zombies. And that's just the regular Titans, there's the occasional abberant, and the Shifters are basically Titans with all the intelligence and skill of a regular human, which is fucking terrifying, and then there's the special shifters, like the Armoured Titan and the Colossal Titan, and later the Beast Titan, which is not only smart, but is implied to be able to transform humans into Titans, and has a ridiculously strong and accurate throwing arm..

Yeah, unless the Marvel heroes acquire the knowledge of their weakness early, they'll find that dealing with the Titans to be a big problem, especially in cities.

MiscellaneousSoup Since: Dec, 2012
#32: Nov 4th 2014 at 8:49:11 AM

What's Attack On Titan? I know it's an anime, but I want to find out the basic plot.

Heatth from Brasil Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: In Spades with myself
#33: Nov 4th 2014 at 9:16:15 AM

You can read our article on it. It is not that long.

Anyway, the plot is that over a hundreds years ago humanity was mostly annihilated by the mysterious "titans". The titans look like giantnote  "naked" humans who eat people. The are strong, agile , can regenerate and, worse of all, there are seemingly an endless number of them(they are not smart, though). For the last hundred years, the remains of humanity managed to hide inside a massive walled city. The city is protected by 3 layers of 50m tall walls that are strong enough to fend off the titans, and have done so for a long time now, which have left the humans complacent

The plot starts as the biggest titan ever seem (he taller than the walls) suddenly appear and breaks an opening in the first wall, reducing the living space of humanity by a third and putting a clock on them, as now they know they can't effort to stand still anymore, and have to figure a way to reclaim their lost lands and, possibly, defeat the titans somehow. The main characters (who lived in a region destroyed by the invading titans) join the army, hoping to join the Survey Corps, a segment specialized in going in forward expeditions to try to figure ways to fight the titans and reclaim land. Their mortality rate is high, as you can expect.

I left out some important First Episode Spoilers, just in case you become interested in reading/watching it, but that is the basic, I think.

Theokal3 Since: Jan, 2012
#34: Nov 4th 2014 at 9:22:27 AM

How old is the series, by the way?

edited 4th Nov '14 9:25:13 AM by Theokal3

Mr.Didact Keep Hope Alive from Winterfell Since: Jan, 2010 Relationship Status: Naked on a bearskin rug, playing the saxophone
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#35: Nov 4th 2014 at 9:23:12 AM

Well, at first the Titans would be a big threat because all the usual attacks wouldn't work but when the Marvel heroes find their weakness then the regular titans would become mince-meat. The Aberrants, Shifters, and Special Titans would be more difficult but not terribly more so unless the power levels shift around. The titans would have to be endless to be a serious threat.

Then you'd have the military which is even more incredibly advanced and over-equipped then the real world one. After all you don't have to make a precise cut on the neck if you just blow the whole Titan into itty bitty bits tongue

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Theokal3 Since: Jan, 2012
#36: Nov 4th 2014 at 9:26:24 AM

[up]My point exactly for the military. I usually dislike Muggles Do It Better, but in this case it could very well apply.

MiscellaneousSoup Since: Dec, 2012
#37: Nov 4th 2014 at 9:27:30 AM

Sounds interesting. I'll read the crossover.

Heatth from Brasil Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: In Spades with myself
#38: Nov 4th 2014 at 9:49:38 AM

[up][up][up][up]Not very. The manga came out in 2012, and was already very popular. An year latter the anime came out and it exploded even more.

SpookyMask Since: Jan, 2011
#39: Nov 4th 2014 at 10:09:13 AM

@Didact: I wonder how fast they would realize that you need to hit at back of their neck :P I mean, its not really obvious weak point since if you don't know whats located there, you might just assume that no matter where you hit they just regenerate

But yeah, I'd say that titan shifters would actually be a threat since they are surprisingly fast for their size tongue Plus they can do creative things like partially forming their titan body

edited 4th Nov '14 10:09:24 AM by SpookyMask

Theokal3 Since: Jan, 2012
#40: Nov 4th 2014 at 10:09:39 AM

I see. Thank you for answering.

SpookyMask Since: Jan, 2011
#41: Nov 4th 2014 at 10:12:00 AM

Also, on the "just blow them up", I'm pretty sure they can still regenerate if the small part they need to live survives the explosion :p Since normal explosions don't really annihilate everything, I think

maxwellelvis Mad Scientist Wannabe from undisclosed location Since: Oct, 2009 Relationship Status: In my bunk
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#42: Nov 4th 2014 at 1:16:26 PM

Yeah, blowing up a Titan is an exceedingly bad idea, if it doesn't kill them, it might just be enough to make it angry. And given that Titans appear to have the mentality of a two-year-old, I highly advise against making a Titan angry.

Of course, don't you know anything about ALCHEMY?!- Twin clones of Ivan the Great
CorrTerek The Permanently Confused from The Bland Line Since: Jul, 2009
The Permanently Confused
#43: Nov 4th 2014 at 1:27:34 PM

One would hope that the explosion would hit the back of the neck. It wouldn't be a very thorough explosion otherwise.

maxwellelvis Mad Scientist Wannabe from undisclosed location Since: Oct, 2009 Relationship Status: In my bunk
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#44: Nov 4th 2014 at 1:31:39 PM

You'd have to get behind them, though, and unless you have 3D Maneuvering Gear, you might go too slow or too fast to hit them, and even that's assuming they're alone. Titans never attack alone. Spider-Man can pull it off without the gear, but he's only got a finite supply of web fluid.

Of course, don't you know anything about ALCHEMY?!- Twin clones of Ivan the Great
CorrTerek The Permanently Confused from The Bland Line Since: Jul, 2009
The Permanently Confused
#45: Nov 4th 2014 at 1:33:56 PM

So hitting the back of the neck by going through the front of the neck is right out? Jets and fighter craft are right out? What about helicarriers?

Mr.Didact Keep Hope Alive from Winterfell Since: Jan, 2010 Relationship Status: Naked on a bearskin rug, playing the saxophone
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#46: Nov 4th 2014 at 1:47:57 PM

Well, I'd think they probably have Reed or Tony experiment with a captured Titan or else some Survey Corpsmen just spills the beans.

And it depends. Modern day bombs and explosives can be extremely potent and no doubt Marvel verse explosives are even more destructive. A Titan should be able to regenerate if it's torso is gone or it's leg. But if the entire upper half of it's body has been splattered all over the street then... yeah. Doesn't really matter if that nape was destroyed if it's stuck in a tree while the rest of it's head pieces are scattered about tongue

Sure throwing a hand-grenade at the front might not do much but dropping a JDAM should turn that sucker into ash. Or have a tank, which are surprisingly accurate at long ranges, aim it's cannon at the general area of the nape and blast away. I think it was said that cannons actually managed to knock out a shitload of the Titans in the battle of Trost. And we are light-years ahead of gunpowder cannons.

You don't even really have to kill a Titan in an initial attack. Disabling it or crippling it long enough to get in a position to kill it should be enough, it takes several minutes for them to regen limbs. They shouldn't be able to survive being blown into itty bitty bits. Mr. Fantastic can trip them for The Thing to rip out the nape or Iceman could freeze them in place for Wolverine to slice them up.

Heck get some snipers with anti-material rifles and blow them away from a mile or so. Get some guys to pilot Predator drones and drop a missile on them. Fire a stinger missile at it's face. Precise use of grenade launchers and mortars should do the trick. Horses can outrun Titans and Humvees are considerably faster. We can have guys run circles around them all day and have machine guns or mounted grenade launchers rip the neck part to hamburger.

That's not even considering having Fighter Jets absolutely obliterate Titans on strafing runs or having the Navy shoot cruise missiles at them from miles away. It doesn't matter if you hit that weakpoint if little pieces of Titan rain everywhere. I'm not even sure that an average Titan could do anything to a 68 ton tank.

And if we have all the ridiculous sci-fi shit that Shield has then.... yeah. Titans have no defense against an organized mechanized military with air and sea support. Especially if Helicarriers are involved tongue

Really, the Military and Superhumans should be able to handle this all pretty well if we assume that most of the Titans aren't Aberrants, Shifters, or other Special types and that they retain the same power levels in the show/manga and aren't an endless horde.

Sometimes Muggles Do It Better though I think it's coolest when the Military has Superpowers. War Machine could probably take out a couple hundred of those guys himself. And the superhumans have even more ways to kill a Titan than just slicing the nape. The Human Torch can fly around and burn them to ashes while Hulk punches through their neck and Thor calls down lightning that makes them explode. And of course, there's the Iron Man Tank Missile. All bets are off when Doctor Strange and other magical characters get involved.

Without the unique Titans or any other such factors, it's pretty lopsided in Marvel's favor. It'd be even more lopsided if it was a DC Crossover tongue

edited 4th Nov '14 1:55:33 PM by Mr.Didact

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Durazno Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#47: Nov 4th 2014 at 2:16:29 PM

So what we need is an invasion where every single Titan is a shifter and they spread out throughout 616 society before making their move.

CorrTerek The Permanently Confused from The Bland Line Since: Jul, 2009
The Permanently Confused
#48: Nov 4th 2014 at 2:58:33 PM

Sounds like it, yeah.

maxwellelvis Mad Scientist Wannabe from undisclosed location Since: Oct, 2009 Relationship Status: In my bunk
Mad Scientist Wannabe
#49: Nov 4th 2014 at 4:20:30 PM

Considering they got the guy apparently to help with this, I think Marvel is well-aware of what they have to do.

Also, you can't "cripple" a Titan unless you're like Eren.

Of course, don't you know anything about ALCHEMY?!- Twin clones of Ivan the Great
CorrTerek The Permanently Confused from The Bland Line Since: Jul, 2009
The Permanently Confused
#50: Nov 4th 2014 at 4:40:13 PM

Define "like Eren". Because I'm going over all possible meanings of the phrase, and in each version there are multiple Marvel characters that have that covered.


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