Planet Krypton is getting a TV show.

Watched it trice now. If Wallis used a double, I cant spot where, and the end of that scene is a pretty darn long sequence. Which, for some reason they decided to jump zoom in? But still one take. Very nice work. She generally is my favorite part of the show, both as an actress and as a character.

They also pretty decisively ruled out this being a closed loop. Blowing up the moon is not something you leave out of the history books. Wow.

Edited by Izeinsummer on Aug 8th 2019 at 9:28:02 AM

Wegthor has been destroyed in the comics before, twice under different circumstances. One had to do with an ancient weapon, and one was due to a missile launched by Jax-Ur, back when Jax-Ur was a male scientist.

My favorite part about Wegthor being blown up is that the scale of damage was unintentional. You go to blow up a tunnel and end up destroying a moon, just one of those days ya know?

Also I love how this season is making my 'Stabby Grandma' nickname for Nyssa really appropriate.

This has been my favorite Superhero Show season this year! Great ride, from start to finish.

REALLY hope for a Season 3 renewal.

They'd better! Also, I think Seg had the best response to 'you're not that special'.

And I know that Brainiac's plans for Jor are horrifying, but I still find it kinda funny that he calls Jor 'son'

Canceled[1] and Lobo no longer moving forward.

Nooooooo

They're shopping the show around, and there is a fan campaign to get it renewed on DC Universe.

Goddammit. How do shows like Van Helsing stay on the air while a show that's actually good gets canceled? This is why Syfy is Snark Bait.

Edited by BearyScary on Aug 17th 2019 at 7:04:33 AM

Now, now there's no need to bash another show just cause one you like got canceled. That's not cool.

SyFy has an issue where they really, really want to have all the rights to all the shows they air, but they keep picking up shows where all they get are the first run rights. So once the show doesn't manage to draw people to watch the rest of their programming, they cancel it. It happened to Dark Matter and the Expanse, and it seems that it happened here too. (There's no way that Warner Bros let SyFy keep all the rights for Krypton).

Shows like Killjoys and Van Helsing and the Magicians have an easier time of it because even if the TV broadcast doesn't get killer ratings, SyFy owns the all the show rights for them, so Killjoys gets sold for streaming on VRV? SyFy gets that money. But with the Expanse, Amazon had streaming rights for it, and SyFy didn't get any of the money from that. ...also, Van Helsing and Killjoys are very cheap in comparison to stuff like Krypton.

So this wasn't SyFy going "which show is objectively better, Krypton or Van Helsing? Clearly it's Van Helsing." It was them trying to determine which was a better long-term investment. Still not good for fans of Krypton, but their approach these days at least makes sense. There was a period in the late 90s/2000s where they repeatedly cancelled shows, claimed it was so they could replace it with shows that would draw a female demographic (when the shows they cancelled were the ones that did that) and mostly just replaced them with wrestling or reality shows no one cared about.

Edited by Zendervai on Aug 20th 2019 at 11:56:44 AM

I just heard this show got cancelled.

...

Kind of glad I backed off of it honestly. It feels like fewer and fewer shows I'm interested in these days ever see conclusion. I wonder how that looks statistically - do more shows these days just get cancelled prematurely vs the past few decades?

I mean - Powerless, Constantine, Marvel Netflix, Lobo, Ghost Rider, The Tick (both generations of the show).

There has to be a reason. They're not all on the same network.

Edited by Soble on Sep 30th 2019 at 11:32:19 AM

There's a couple different things going on there. Networks want 1) big hits and 2) enough cheap shows to fill up the schedule. Ideally both. The streaming services want buzz. And a Netflix commissioned market research study found that two seasons was the best return on investment. Lots of buzz for the first season, and when the second season comes around, more people want to watch it. After that point, the number of new viewers starts to drop and apparently Netflix decided that having a reputation for leaving most stuff hanging is better than shows not consistently doing gangbuster numbers all the time.

Marvel Netflix is because of Disney+ and also because of diminishing critical returns.

Powerless was critically considered kind of a mess and they were constantly tweaking the premise, right up until release. Constantine was a very odd choice for NBC and NBC is generally a very poor home for genre television, Grimm being the obvious exception.

One thing to remember is that a lot more shows are being made in general now. It used to be that a show would have 20 something episodes or more and that was the standard. So for that particular timeslot, the network would only need two shows a year. Shows are getting shorter now, and longevity depends on active engagement because, well...there's so many new shows coming out that they're all drowning each other out.

Some networks are way worse than others (Sy Fy keeps picking up big deal properties and then cancelling them because they don't actually have all the rights and it costs more than they expected) and some are just enigmatic. (Amazon. We have no idea what gets them to decide what to continue or what to cancel.)

And Netflix in general is just pants on head at this point? Limited series aside, they have exactly four shows that ended on their own terms, and two of them are animated. (A Series of Unfortunate Events, Voltron, Orange is the New Black and Dragons: Race to the Edge).

Edited by Zendervai on Oct 6th 2019 at 6:03:56 AM

Agreed. Combine that with the fact that more and more people stream than watch live than they used to, and IIRC Greg Weisman pointed out that the ratings that get a smash hit today used to be meh in the 90's, there's more competition and issues.

And sadly with Krypton as much as I hyped it to friends, most people didn't watch it or hear of it before I mentioned it compared to the CW DC shows. And it's hard to describe how great Krypton is. "It's about Superman's grandpa and there's time travel- no wait, it's actually really amazing"

Here's some plot points that were originally going to be explored in the show's planned third season.

Nysaa being Thanagarian? Interesting.