My Hero Academia

Mirko's appearance did serve another purpose though, a more practical one.

It showed us how utterly ridiculously strong her rabbit legs are.

Not only did they manage to provide enough force to spring her straight to their location, but also tank the landing without letting any of the force break anything in her as consequence.

And considering how violent and destructive that landing was, imagine the forces behind it to wreak that kind of havoc on the asphalt.

Dabi is lucky that he dipped out as fast as he did.

Imagine getting kicked by those kind of legs with that kind of muscle force packing within them.

So her showing up didn't just saved the two heroes, but also providing us hints of why she is the leading female hero of the Top 10.

Deku could probably learn a thing or two from her given his own fighting style uses a lot of kicks.

I know it might be random, but I hope Mina ends up interning under Mirko. It would be interesting since she brought up them teaming up and Mirko attitude towards teams. Plus the two together seem like a lot of fun together.

I'd rather see Miruko team up with Asui, simply so I can say, "Rabbit and Frog! They Fight Crime!"

Edited by Daremo on Jul 22nd 2018 at 12:21:08 PM

I mean, I'm expecting to see something from all of these Top Heroes, that doesn't mean just any of them showing up anywhere to get a glimpse of their power feels right.

I mean, you can do that and put her in a situation where her involvement doesn't feel forced.

I think some of you are thinking the main point is that it's strange to have Mirko showing up, when my point is that it was would anyone showed up to get involved with the situation. Because the way the situation was resolved in general honestly felt odd: Dabi shows up out of nowhere, we don't really learn anything about him or his connection to the Todorokis, and then one of the Top 10 randomly shows up to force him to retreat even though he just said a second ago he's not there to fight.

Edited by LSBK on Jul 22nd 2018 at 1:03:46 PM

Well, thanks for finally clearing that point up then. Since until that point, each and everyone made their own assumptions on what you meant.

As said, it's good old coincidence. If you play Cinemasins, that could be a sin. Besides, it's not too unreasonable that someone watched that and said "I should go and help" especially if he/she has really heroic intentions (like Mumen Rider, who interveened against Sea King), and was close enough.

To make it looks less like a deus ex machina, Hori could've showed us Mirko who was watching the match and said "I guess they need my help" or something like that, but then e we would've all expected her and there wouldn't have been the surprise. An example, think of Whole Cake Island in One Piece, at the end of the arc the germa 66 arrive to help Luffy and Sanji, but we kinda all expected them because we saw them who said that were ready to go around 30 chapters ago. If we didn't saw them, we could've called it a deus ex machina (and still was a deus ex machina, only foreshadowed)

I agree that seeing the top 10 heroes just in little glimpses isn't good, but so far we didn't have much time, we have to see if they'll play some important role later.

Edited by fishysaur on Jul 22nd 2018 at 12:08:21 PM

It's not a coincidence, actually. Of course it also makes sense for other heroes to be on their way, that's not the issue.

It's already not a deus ex machina, people through that term (and Ass Pull) around way too often. Her showing up doesn't need to be a surprise, and I've already suggested her watching.

At this point I feel like you all are making this a bigger issue than I am. I didn't say the arc was ruined, or that I hate Mirko or anything, just that things came to an end in a bit of an off kilter way. That's it. Like I said, it doesn't matter that much.

Edited by LSBK on Jul 22nd 2018 at 2:25:19 PM

Well, it's still an ex machina, since it's a last second intervention that changes the situation, but not an asspull since it's not out of the field, at least to me (asspulls are YMMV after all. And an ex machina is not a bad thing per se), the coincidence part is the timing, not the arrival itself. Still, I don't make a big deal out of it (I've actually liked Miruko intervention), I thought you were making a (a bit) big one, but I misunderstood.

Edited by fishysaur on Jul 22nd 2018 at 2:28:09 AM

I mean, it was a super lame cliffhanger resolution, in any case.

Edited by Gilphon on Jul 22nd 2018 at 6:02:21 AM

I probably could have saved a lot of effort by just saying that, yes.

I mean

It was being broadcast live all over the fuckin country. Is it too much to believe that other heroes would see it, and immediately move towards the area?

It was never about whether it made sense or not. Something can be logical and still be unsatisfying.

Edit: I might as well elaborate, since this seems to be causing unnecessary confusion. Dabi's little visit had basically no consequence, basically invalidating the anticipation for the cliffhanger it follows. People were expecting some revelation of importance to happen, but it really didn't. I guess Dabi calling Endeavor by his name and saying he really wants to talk to him confirms that he has some relation to the Todorokis, but most people were already assuming that, which is why there was excitement about him showing up in the first place.

Really, the way it was handled makes Dabi appearing feel unnecessary. You can just cut that out, and skip to the reveal about Hawks being a double agent. Either that, or actually have Dabi and Endeavor talk about before having Mirko (or whoever) show up and he has to retreat.

The issue with Mirko showing up isn't that it's illogical for other heroes to be aware of what's happening and be on their way, it's that combined with the above her appearance feels out of place. Again, this has nothing specifically to do with it being Mirko. It would have that feeling regardless of who showed up.

Really, I think Endeavor just passing out and ending it with the reporters thanking him and Hawks would have been the best. Because the previous chapter was this big triumphant moment for him, and relief for his kids, and while some stories would follow that up with something soul-crushing like Dabi killing Endeavor or him losing his Quirk, I don't think this story is one of those. But at the same time, it feels strange to have another villain, especially Dabi show up with nothing really come from it, and nothing did.

I hope this clears up everything. And once again I'll say this; this isn't a huge deal. The fight was still cool, the arc fine, etc. the ending just wasn't the best.

Edited by LSBK on Jul 22nd 2018 at 6:08:10 AM

Hawks knew there was a powerful Noumu coming for him and another high ranked Pro, so he chose Endeavor to tag along in order to have the best odds of putting the thing down. While he was taken by surprise in regards to the exact timing and the specific location, he knew about where and when, and it's not hard to imagine he planned with Dabi (the latter not knowing of Hawks real reasons of course) for a city with more powerful Heroes nearby in case it really went to hell.

"So, I have Endeavor for when the thing attacks, there is plenty of lower ranked Heroes in this city, and Miruko should be in the vicinity too." or something.

What I don't get is how Todoroki's quirk works. Logically, the ice powers should increase his body temperature (by pumping in heat from his surroundings), rather than lowering it. I suppose it could work as depicted if he had some way of controlling endothermic reactions in his body, but there aren't many endothermic reactions that produce sufficient entropy to proceed spontaneously.

As for the teachers, military academies (i.e. the closest thing we have in real life to UA) often have courses taught by active duty military officers. Taking time off from deployments to teach the next generation is routine even while remaining on active duty. You teach for a few years, then you go back into the field.

You're assuming that he's removing heat from his surroundings and channeling it into instead of generating "coldness". Yes, I know in real-life that's not an actual thing, but this isn't real life, and that's hardly the only liberty taken from real-life. Honestly, kind of random.

There's a difference between "this doesn't make sense" and "this is anticlimactic". The point being made is the latter, not the former.

Edited by LSBK on Jul 22nd 2018 at 7:18:14 AM

...Why does a post have to be a response to another post? They were just asking a question in general.

Anyway, the best way to think of it is "it's magic." Todoroki magically removes heats from the environment, breaking the laws of thermodynamics completely.

Because neither part of the post is phrased like a question. It reads like a post made as a part of ongoing, previously established conversation.

Edited by LSBK on Jul 22nd 2018 at 7:19:46 AM

"What I don't get..." seems like a fairly normal segue to me.

The second paragraph has more of that though, definitely.

Really, questions like that are probably why the origins of Quirks are unknown. The current set up gives Horikoshi cart blanches to use any power he comes up with without needing to really make a greater justification for it.

Huh, going off of that, does anyone think it would be a good idea for the story to delve into the origins of Quirks? On the one hand going into the greatest mystery of the world would be fun, but on the other hand I'm not certain you actually could come up with a satisfying answer that adequately explains the sheer diversity of Quirks.

Edited by LSBK on Jul 22nd 2018 at 7:28:28 AM

Honestly "genetic mutation" seems to be the explanation we got and any other answer would probably only serve to make the world of MHA vastly less interesting.

Probably. Any concrete answer I can think of (government conspiracy, aliens, actual magic) just brings up more questions.

So has there been a character that had more than one quirk that isn't AFO or a Nomu?

I ask these because Shoto's quirk is counted as one

Nope.

Nope. No one so far has multiple Quirks besides AFO and the Nomus. It's why AFO and the Nomus are considered so unusual.