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Saiga (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#18926: Jun 19th 2018 at 5:19:39 PM

Holy hyperbolic title

Unless the theory contains a compelling argument that All Might molests puppies that sounds absurdly sensitive

sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#18927: Jun 19th 2018 at 5:28:28 PM

Holy hyperbolic title

Unless the theory contains a compelling argument that All Might molests puppies that sounds absurdly sensitive

Pretty much sums up my thoughts.

All the original video does is suggest that All Might's muscle form is itself a quirk Toshinori didn't realize he even had until he got One For All and it helped make him particularly good with using it.

Hell, one idea posed (that All Might's claim he was quirkless before getting OFA was a kind of Metaphorically True Exact Words) only increases the soul to me, given Horikoshi's love of Star Wars.

edited 19th Jun '18 5:29:02 PM by sgamer82

BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: Jun, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
CHADhan Player.
#18928: Jun 19th 2018 at 5:28:32 PM

Geoff talks about how central All Might is to the overall narrative and how his character has influenced so many around him, both heroes and villains alike.

A lazy millennial who's good at what he does.
slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: Aug, 2015
The Head of the Hydra
#18929: Jun 19th 2018 at 5:40:11 PM

Its so fun how absolutely vital All Might is to the setting.

He is the main source of inspiration for both hero & villain, & a lot of motivations involve him in way or another from revenge, to upholding his legacy, or trying to besmirch it.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#18930: Jun 19th 2018 at 5:46:30 PM

Ignoring how eye-rolly I find "Character has a power that they used constantly that they didn't even know about", I'd say for All Might it wouldn't even add anything to his character at this point.

If All Might had a Quirk besides One For All that would have been fine, it'd even be fine if that was the explanation for his muscle form, as it stands nothing strikes me as more pointless than trying to come up with an explanation for something that, while a bit weird, already has one.

That said, "pointless" and "horrible" aren't the same thing.

edited 19th Jun '18 5:47:10 PM by LSBK

VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#18931: Jun 19th 2018 at 5:50:11 PM

That's all it is? Melodramatic seems like an understatement.

Wispy Since: Feb, 2017
#18932: Jun 19th 2018 at 5:54:30 PM

Mat Pat is known for causing melodrama in communities.

heejung Since: May, 2012
#18933: Jun 19th 2018 at 5:57:55 PM

Toshinori is honestly the original madman. It's one thing to muse that "oh it would be really nice if there was this one seemingly infallible and dependable figure, that will give people so much peace of mind". Totally different thing to decide that *I* will be that pillar. And from the way things were presented, it looks like that was the selling pitch that made Shimura decide to pass OFA to him. I don't know how this Quirkless middle schooler was planning to go around achieving that, but think about just the sheer audacity needed to speak of that as his mission. Shimura was correct to call him crazy.

BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: Jun, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
CHADhan Player.
#18934: Jun 19th 2018 at 6:06:24 PM

He was so crazy, he actually made it work.

A lazy millennial who's good at what he does.
LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#18935: Jun 19th 2018 at 6:07:32 PM

It brings up the question of how they meet though. I guess she was already looking for a successor but how did that conversation even come about?

fasoman1996 Google "big ears" from Argentina (A.K.A. Naziland) Since: Dec, 2014 Relationship Status: Baby don't hurt me!
Google "big ears"
#18936: Jun 19th 2018 at 6:10:49 PM

With a great power comes a great madman. That must be OFA's side effects

[up] I suppose that All Might like Deku was trying to become a great hero but his quirklessness got in the way of that. I wonder how he got in UA if the conversation he had with Shimura was before he got OFA.

Uni cat
sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#18937: Jun 19th 2018 at 6:16:22 PM

The same way Deku did? Took the test after getting OFA? His conversations with her show him in a middle school uniform, after all.

Sigilbreaker26 Serial Procrastinator Since: Nov, 2017
Serial Procrastinator
#18938: Jun 19th 2018 at 6:17:50 PM

Mat Pat causes drama because he always makes outlandish theories and never bothers to research them so it annoys people.

"And when the last law was down and the Devil turned round on you, where would you hide, the laws all being flat?"
sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#18939: Jun 19th 2018 at 6:20:42 PM

Which makes little sense to me as they're clearly tongue-firmly-in-cheek most of the time anyway.

edited 19th Jun '18 6:20:54 PM by sgamer82

Sigilbreaker26 Serial Procrastinator Since: Nov, 2017
Serial Procrastinator
#18940: Jun 19th 2018 at 6:22:07 PM

Sometimes he genuinely spreads misinformation though.

To be fair, I don't know if that's the case in this case. That's because I had to eventually quit his channel when the quality of his videos just tumbled.

"And when the last law was down and the Devil turned round on you, where would you hide, the laws all being flat?"
VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#18941: Jun 19th 2018 at 6:22:30 PM

Mat Pat's show has a Dan Browned page. Clearly his research isn't all that well ironed out.

sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#18942: Jun 19th 2018 at 6:23:51 PM

Again, Tongue-in-cheek. I find the theories fun to consider but don't go out of my way to take the more off the wall ones very seriously. Yet there's an entire video dedicated to debunking "Sans is Ness"...

Again, would it be out of line to ask for an eyeroll emoticon? I will never understand how people can get so up in arms about stuff like this.

edited 19th Jun '18 6:24:34 PM by sgamer82

Sigilbreaker26 Serial Procrastinator Since: Nov, 2017
Serial Procrastinator
#18943: Jun 19th 2018 at 6:25:06 PM

Well if he's trying to be funny then he's not funny either.

What makes it worse is that his original videos actually were fairly well researched and even the ones I don't think are true are at least insightful (like the Majora's Mask one).

edited 19th Jun '18 6:26:19 PM by Sigilbreaker26

"And when the last law was down and the Devil turned round on you, where would you hide, the laws all being flat?"
sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#18944: Jun 19th 2018 at 6:33:46 PM

I still can't say I can understand the big deal. It's all fiction. I sincerely don't see anything in fiction worth taking so seriously you have to create entire videos to debunk some random dude's badly researched theories. Even a moderately famous one like MatPat, whose theories are as often as not about making Mario a villain.

Going back to topic (apologies for my part in the brief de-rail), conversation in the Anime only thread prompted me to think of a question: How big a threat do you think the prior users of All For One actually were before All Might? All For One's specific recollection of Nana suggests she was a particular thorn in his side. At the same time, I can't imagine the initial users were able to do much directly.

edited 19th Jun '18 6:34:49 PM by sgamer82

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#18945: Jun 19th 2018 at 6:35:54 PM

It depends. I'd be curious to know when exactly All For One found out this was going on.

sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#18946: Jun 19th 2018 at 6:39:56 PM

Didn't All Might say the original One For All tried and failed to stop him? He could have known from the start. On the other hand, you're right, it would likely depend on when he realized the power was getting passed down

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#18947: Jun 19th 2018 at 6:42:14 PM

Yeah, he could have left his brother alive because of whatever familial attachment he had, and only found out about how One For All works much later.

I can believe the early ones wouldn't have gone for him head on anyway.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: Aug, 2015
The Head of the Hydra
#18948: Jun 19th 2018 at 6:43:41 PM

I can assume it went like OFA failed the first time, AFO let him live, & so the former left with the latter never hearing of him again.

So the question is if AFO battled any successor before Nana & All Might?

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#18949: Jun 19th 2018 at 6:48:28 PM

I'm willing to bet he did, if only because All For One knew enough about OFA by the present day to credit himself as its creator. My guess would be users 5 or 6 (Nana's immediate predecessor or the one before that) were the first to try him directly.

Saiga (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#18950: Jun 19th 2018 at 6:50:04 PM

Eh, if people can make videos for their theories I see no issue with making videos to debunk them. It just doesn't need that kind of overreaction.

Didn't realize Mat was part of Game Theory, that does make a lot of sense though.


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