My Hero Academia

I'm not really seeing a point in bringing everyone into the sky right now.

If he grabbed everyone to save them from Shigaraki's attack that would be one thing, and only taking Shigaraki so he can't release a decay wave would be another.

And the way he's talking and looking really doesn't make me think he just suddenly awakened Float. He doesn't seem surprised at all that that just happened, and it's not like he can be expected to have a handle on it with the literal first try.

I expect a crash landing.

I mean. He brought them into the sky so they wouldn't be on the ground when Shigaraki Thanos'd it.

Grab Tomura so he can't use the battlefield to his advantage like Overhaul did, grab the heroes and injured so they don't get caught in Tomura's decay wave, attack Tomura while he's in the air with little to touch so that he has little way of defending himself outside of raw strength.

Deku is effectively depriving Tomura of any advantages he could use. No hostages, no battlefield advantage, no means of orienting himself, he is aiming for complete and total defeat of Tomura. And considering how pissed he is at Tomura, it's not hard to imagine Deku is currently focused on doing nothing but completely slaughtering Tomura. Not just taking him down, dealing him such a conclusive defeat that there is no hope of him getting back up again.

Shigaraki now has other quirks besides decay as well as superstrength so what would grabbing him accomplish aside from bringing him dangerously close to Midoriya? I imagine he's still very powerful even when his body is starting to fall apart.

The Decay however is the biggest issue at the moment. Outside of Decay, all Tomura has been using this fight is raw strength and the Quirk Eraser Bullets. Right now, Deku's main goal is stopping him from dusting the entire area again like he did Deika, and with his body suddenly giving out on him, Tomura can't necessarily rely on physical strength or use any of his other quirks for risk of more damage to his body. So restraining Tomura but making him sure he's off the ground and has no potential victims is the main goal right now.

But removing Shigaraki stops the decay wave; it doesn't look like he even managed to touch the ground before being yanked up. So there's no reason to take the others to keep them safe from something that didn't happen.

Edited by LSBK on Sep 7th 2020 at 9:32:42 AM

Of course, stopping Shigaraki is easier said than done. This is a guy who only wants to annihilate every single hero on the scene. No exceptions. No mercy. He's going to wreck everyone. And as I said before, at this point, I doubt he cares about what happens to him, which makes him especially scary.

Someone that powerful, and that hate filled, who doesn't care what happens to him in the course of his vendetta? It's going to get ugly.

You know, something I've noticed in this chapter upon re-reading it; there's a real theme of the heroes questioning their actions, along with Torino's words last chapter.

Makes me think there really will be a hero reform when this arc is said and done.

It won't just be the heroes questioning things.

The people are gonna be out for blood since the heroes allowed things to go this badly. Especially since they actually seemingly prepared for what was going on and still failed badly from how it looks to civilians.

That's true actually; public opinion on heroes was already on the decline ever since the Kamino incident. This might be the straw that break the camel's back for the opinion on Heroes.

I imagine this will in fact have a huge impact on public perception of heroes, but I don't think we're supposed to be doubting this was the best play for them.

It's just that, here, like with Nana's situation, and many things there was no good, full-proof solution here.

Edited by LSBK on Sep 7th 2020 at 10:50:01 AM

Well obviously we the audience know that, but the fact remains is that given how FUCKED things have gotten, it's not hard for the characters in-universe to start thinking "Maybe we could have did things differently"

Kinda hard to find a good situation when you only have Morton's Fork to eat with.
I live under the belief that "Shoulda, woulda, coulda" is nothing but a recipe for anxiety and wallowing in regret. It's better to own up to your decisions and decide where to go from there rather than obsess over what you could have done differently, since at this point, it's already happened and there's no changing it.

Edited by RebelFalcon on Sep 7th 2020 at 12:14:03 PM

That's easy to say, but harder in practice. Given the fact that there will potential casualties, probably on a LARGE scale. The Heroes can't exactly just tell the public "sorry, shit happens" and not expect people to be pissed the fuck off.

Like, they are likely going to get DOGGED over this

I'm not saying this isn't going to bring a ton of bad publicity, or that they shouldn't think of how things could have gone more smoothly.

But that's more in the nature of how you should always strive to improve - I'd rather the story not try and pretend things would have been better if this whole operation hadn't of happened. At least, not by the actually important characters.

But, yeah, big changes are sure to stem from this.

At least the bnha public has been more reasonable than OPM's so far.

I think large scale destruction and people potentially being injured and dying in mass is a pretty justifiable reason for people to lose some bit of faith in the Heroes` ability to actually handle things.

It's certainly worse there, but let's be fair, everyone hero is fodder except for Saitama; I'd be mad too if we had OPM's heroes.

OPM's a fairly bleak setting with a shallow populace, constant world destroying threats, a Hero organization that has rampant corruption and incompetence, Heroes that are well-intentioned but too ineffectual to make a real difference against genuine threats, Heroes that are assholes who are in it for the fame, and/or Heroes who are powerful but too dysfunctional to be as effective as they could be.

Saitama's not excluded from that either - he's one of those "powerful but dysfunctional" Heroes.

Edited by M84 on Sep 8th 2020 at 12:39:01 AM

I mean... even OPM has good heroes in them, even if they aren't exactly the most morally upfront. Genos, Fubuki, Mumen Rider, Bang, Atomic Samurai, Flashy Flash, Metal Bat, Zombie Man, Tanktop Master, Iairon, Stinger, Lightning Max, Golden Ball, Spring Mustachio, Lilly, they do care about helping and protecting people, some by their very nature, others after meeting Saitama. It's just unfortunately, they're the minority compared to the Crapsack World of jackass heroes.

Also, we haven't really talked about this, but it's been a long time since he lasted busted him one of his arms.

He's using Black Whip to move it right now (a nice use of the power), but I can't help but think back to how he only has like a couple more chances of doing that before they become unusuable.

Now that his limit is around 45%, i would imagine that using 100% isn't quite as destroying as it used to be.

Regarding Air Force, my main point there is that we *havent seen it be used*. It's a perfect precursor to both Black Whip (Izuku having to develop tactics to fight at range) and Float (the ability to stay in the air) but we just don't see it used that way. Not even a little bit. That's what bothers me, it wouldn't be that hard to show it even once. But these connections aren't made. Maybe they will be made retroactively, but that doesn't change my frustration with the build-up.

I dunno if he even can restrain Shiggy with Black Whip, vague energy attacks arent exactly immune to Decay if Redestro's stress attack counts.

Edited by alekos23 on Sep 8th 2020 at 10:40:47 PM

And that's assuming that he can't just break free through sheer strength.

Use Black Whip to throw Shiggy into the air. Juggle him with Air Force. Spam Air Force until out of HP.