My Hero Academia

I mean, in this particular series it seems pretty clear that 'sticking your nose where it doesn't belong' is a good thing. Since basically it hass always worked out for everyone so far except for Gentle.

Its good morally, but that doesn't mean its acceptable by everyone. The only ones who've approved of it are Izuku and All Might, and they're noted by everyone around them to be crazy for doing so.

Izuku and All Might are the exceptions, not the rule.

Edited by BlackYakuzu94 on Jan 21st 2020 at 9:51:33 AM

Anyways, Here's an extra from Volume 9 explaining the whole thing.◊

Self-defense is actually allowed, but it depends on the power of the quirk and the law is intentionally wide because it's impossible to account for everything.

So I'm gonna say in Stain's case, the problem wasn't that they defended from him, but that they beat the shit out of him.

Edited by WashTheLaundryHero on Jan 21st 2020 at 6:58:00 AM

I have to say it again.

The visual for the culture festival arc in his link is adorable.

https://mobile.twitter.com/WSJ_manga/status/1219539374804619264

Bakugo and Kirishima continue to share one braincell.

Was that ever called into question? The two of them getting lost on the 80th floor looking for the party in the movie should have been proof enough.

I'm surprised they already got a lot of it done.

Heres hoping they get a good animator for the band sequence. Cause ya know those finger movements on a guitar are a bit complex.

I have faith in Studio Bones to deliver on that one.

And hey! We finally get to hear her sing!

(Can't imagine the pressure on the voice actress in order to make it sound as excellent as that one page made it out to be...)

And I wonder who Gentle and La Brava's voice actor/actress will be...

Aww man, Gentle. I've been waiting for him. Gentle is the shit.

Always a fan of fight scenes where you're kinda encouraged to root for both sides.

Edited by GNinja on Jan 21st 2020 at 4:43:57 PM

I don't dare to hope with regards to the Gentle Fight. It's absolutely my favorite (technical) fight in the entire manga. I so frigging hope it's going to be amazing, but i also don't want to set my expectations so high that i'll be disappointed.

Also i don't know if anyone saw Horikoshi's sketches, but this is one of my favorite horikoshi gags:

Bakugo finally reaches the Dekusun and punches it, while the ShotoMoon makes an appearance

The Stain incident and aftermath always seemed pretty straightforward to me. But people are so used to superhero fiction either not addressing things like this, or just unilaterally portraying the other side as in the wrong/evil the fact that this is something that absolute does make sense to come up in universe is overlooked.

The same way people get mad at Aizawa for saying he would have expelled everyone for either participating or knowing about the Kamino incident even though, in my opinion, that's even more understandable than the Stain incident.

Edited by LSBK on Jan 21st 2020 at 12:37:32 PM

They still went half baked to pick a fight with still starting but brutal criminals on their home turf.

I meant Aizawa's reactions is more understandable. The kids actions have them much more clearly in the wrong.

Edited by LSBK on Jan 21st 2020 at 1:41:39 PM

Knowing what we do now about Aizawa, I wonder if it would have been actual expulsion or his "making a point" expulsion.

Given the seriousness of the situation, pretty sure that would have stuck.

Double post.

Even though we only found out one new one, the discussion about the Quirks was still interesting. I like the contrast between Bakugo (and All Might) saying that none of them were really impressive, versus Izuku disagreeing.

I'm curious if that's going to be an angle about "it's not inherently what the power is more how you use it", although, I don't know how effect something that would be in a situation in which we know they're all going to be way stronger than they originally were, which inherently comes with new possibilities for them.

Still, I think that line of thinking is really relevant considering how many people judge how good Quirks are solely based on how hard they can hit or not.

Edited by LSBK on Jan 21st 2020 at 9:14:45 AM

I've said it before, and I'll say it again: bystanders being lauded for intervention is part of our patrimony, dating as far back as ancient Israel. We expect competent bystanders to intervene in an emergency until such time as the professionals can relieve them. Even though they may be called on to justify their actions in court, we recognize defense of others and necessity as valid defenses and will acquit those who demonstrate they met the requirements of those defenses. We even count it a natural right for law-abiding citizens to arm themselves with deadly weapons so they are able to neutralize a threat to their own lives or another's.

Regarding the Stain fight, I don't think anybody is going to blame them for using their quirks for self-defense. The problem is that it's kind hard to argue that's what the fight was.

I'd have to go back and look at the scene again for the exact timing, but I'm pretty sure there were several points during the fight where they could've gotten the hell out of there or called other heroes for help, and they didn't do so. The fact that that other hero (Native, if I remember right) was already incapacitated only adds to it; they clearly prioritized trying to capture Stain over getting themselves and an injured man to safety.

Fighting your way out when backed into a corner is one thing, but deliberately staying and fighting when you have an escape route is a different matter.

I mean, imagine it as a slightly more realistic scenario: you have three teenagers who are doing a police ride-along, when they run into a dangerous serial killer who's already injured one cop who tried to apprehend him. Instead of calling for help or trying to get the guy to safety, they decide to try to apprehend the perp themselves. It absolutely isn't a smart decision, regardless of the fact that they were successful.

Edited by JapaneseTeeth on Jan 21st 2020 at 11:04:45 AM

Not to mention that Iida intentionally went and was there in the first place specifically for Stain on a personal vendetta, making his circumstances less than..."noble".

Only reason he isn't dead is thanks to Izuku getting involved and by bringing someone with enough firepower to keep Stain occupied while they went in to save Iida from him...but then there was another injured pro-hero at the scene that they hadn't taken into the calculations so they ended up staying the fight and despite dodging the bullets, still had to face the consequences.

I'm more surprised that Iida's punishment wasn't harsher than it was...

I think that a better question here would be this.

"If you had quirks of your own, and not being pro-heroes, would you interfere in a villain's crime spree when given the chance, at the risk of your own lives?"

Would you?

Also note that at that point. Stain was targeting Iida. Hell, he also should have run at some point, but was too devoted to killing the second coming of Ingenium to do so. As long as Stain was hyper focused on killing Iida (and determined not to kill Deku and Todoroki), there was no way they could run.

It also doesn't help that Stain is wicked fast, as fast as Izuku's 5% Full Cowl. With Iida injured, there's no way they could have gotten out of that alleyway fast enough to escape Stain. The only way out was to fight their way out since Iida would have died if the boys had done the "right thing" and tried to get Native out of the alleyway first.

It doesn't change the fact that the 1-A boys were breaking the letter of the law, but the police chief decides to sweep it under the rug because of his respect for the spirit of their actions.

What they did was wrong, but they were still doing the duty expected of them as future heroes, which is why Tsugumurae offers his deepest respects to them.

All in all, I have no major problems with the way the Stain Arc was handled. Character Development for Iida, opening conflict about To Be Lawful or Good in a society that worships superherodom, martyring Stain as a catalyst for the League's development, among other things that create plenty of other ripples that affect later arcs.

Edited by reppuzan on Jan 21st 2020 at 1:20:06 PM

But Stain targeting Ida was entirely on Ida being there for his own selfish revenge. He didn't come to save Native. And they cannot keep this from the police either, since Manual would instantly know why Ida was there.

It's not that the situation ended with them having to fight, but that it started with them seeking out a fight.

x6 "I'm curious if that's going to be an angle about "it's not inherently what the power is more how you use it"

We did kind of have this with Mirio (who had a weak quirk and made it strong) but OFA itself was also a weak quirk that was made strong. It very much is in theme that the quirk who can make pro heroes out of even the quirkless, can make powerful quirks out of even weak quirks. Everything about OFA at this point is that it empowers the weak. Which is part of why i think Izuku will eventually split the quirk and pass it on to many others, completing the idea of both "a quirk to empower the weak" and "society needs many pillars". Although with the 7 quirk thing, it's probably going to be passed on to 7 people in stead of a more likely "everyone" as previously.

Edited by devak on Jan 21st 2020 at 8:40:34 PM

I still don't think that "split the powers up amongst others" is going to be a thing. I guess as a theoretical concept it works, but, practically I don't see why giving six other people one extra power is supposed to be some super significant thing for society.

Edited by LSBK on Jan 21st 2020 at 1:48:16 PM

Huh that Festival promo is already at over a million views.

Damn that's impressive.

basically it would create 6 new OF As which can in turn create more OF As which in turn can... You see where I'm going with this.