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JapaneseTeeth Existence Weighed Against Nonbeing from Meinong's jungle Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Mu
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#33901: Sep 11th 2019 at 7:38:07 PM

I'd much prefer the gradual path because A. it would continue the current theme of Deku having to learn how to use his powers effectively and B. doing it quickly is just asking to set up a scenario where he wins an otherwise losing fight by pulling the right power out. I'd find it much more interesting narratively speaking if we know all his powers before he uses them, and the fights are more about showcasing how intelligence in how his uses them.

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LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#33902: Sep 11th 2019 at 7:42:43 PM

Also, regarding the whole "unlocking Nana's during a climactic fight with Shigaraki" thing, I don't see how that would work, because the series seems to be implying he's going to have to learn how to use each of them, individually. So I'm not really seeing a scenario in which Nana's Quirk (or any of them, really) are automatically put to use against whatever threat he's facing.

Well, unless it's something like what he did in the Joint training, i.e. using it very briefly an then the effect going capot.

KarkatTheDalek Not as angry as the name would suggest. from Somwhere in Time/Space Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: You're a beautiful woman, probably
Not as angry as the name would suggest.
#33903: Sep 11th 2019 at 7:58:08 PM

I will say that if Nana’s Quirk is the exact opposite of Decay, that might lend credence to the “Momo is related to Nana” theory - Creation could be seen as the opposite of Decay, after all.

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LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#33904: Sep 11th 2019 at 8:01:06 PM

I mean, I really wouldn't see the point in given Izuku Momo's power, but better. Which is what that would be.

Which is also one of the reasons I don't get the whole "Bakugo is one of those shadowy past users!" idea. Because all that would really accomplish are stupid time-travel antics, and giving him an explicitly stronger version of Bakugo's power.

But, really, my perception is that all of these "this character is actually related to this character!" theories aren't really about evidence or logic.

Edited by LSBK on Sep 11th 2019 at 10:03:46 AM

KarkatTheDalek Not as angry as the name would suggest. from Somwhere in Time/Space Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: You're a beautiful woman, probably
Not as angry as the name would suggest.
#33905: Sep 11th 2019 at 8:05:33 PM

Yeah, that’s a good point. Maybe they could be different enough that they don’t overlap too much, but still.

The fact that Horikoshi had originally intended to give Momo’s Quirk to a Pro-Hero before deciding to give it to a student is interesting to me, and makes me wonder what sort of role that character would have played - if they had story significance, perhaps that was also transferred to Momo.

But really, I might be grasping at straws here - I just want her to get something more to do.

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LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#33906: Sep 11th 2019 at 8:10:39 PM

And since we're going there, I actually do want to vent a bit how some people will enthusiastically stick to these "connections" that have no actual basis, but will try and brush aside something that does have basis like Dabi = Toya.

I don't want to be narrow-minded, but it often just seems like people want to be "clever" by being contrarian - if it seems like the author is clearly implying something then obviously it's a red herring and you're really smart for not falling for it, and if there's an idea you have but nothing in the story is actually pointing towards it that just means you're really smart for seeing it before everyone else.

Edited by LSBK on Sep 11th 2019 at 10:17:52 AM

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#33907: Sep 11th 2019 at 8:14:15 PM

[up]That's it in a nutshell. Some people just want to feel smarter than everyone else.

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LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#33908: Sep 11th 2019 at 8:19:10 PM

All that being said, I do like the theory that AFO's first bodyguard is one of the shadowy vestiges. And I'm also pretty convinced that, if not Destro himself, that someone in his family was he Fourth holder and is the other shadowy figure. His name can't have four in it just because.

But obviously I can admit we have basically nothing to really support either of those ideas. Could very well be Horikoshi trolling.

Edited by LSBK on Feb 4th 2020 at 8:58:27 AM

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: Aug, 2015
The Head of the Hydra
#33909: Sep 11th 2019 at 8:24:55 PM

Shit AFO’s bodyguard being the second wielder is a pretty amazing concept.

Sure I shouldn’t expect it to happen but damn if it does. Think of the story there.

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vicarious vicarious from NC, USA Since: Feb, 2013
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#33910: Sep 11th 2019 at 8:50:32 PM

It’s like poetry

I’d second a gradual process, maybe some of the Quirks being faster or more convenient than others

While black whip is basically symbiotic tentacles and not that mastered now, it should be boosted since it’s been stockpiled over time and we could believably see it like in combat like Venom can by the end of the series imo

I wonder if we’ll get a slight healing factor, which I can honestly see as necessary coming up soon. There’s a lot of speculation what the other 7 or 8 are, so I can see the rest being a holistic set overall that would complement each other for what they can’t individually do to the extent of the other Quirks.

I wonder if we’ll get a more projectile based power that adds besides the sheer power his glove snaps can do. I’d laugh if it’s straight up Superman Heat Vision. An esoteric power of some kind can be interesting. Maybe an empath power of a type of psychometry for investigation and analysis?

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#33911: Sep 11th 2019 at 8:54:28 PM

[up]We've already seen Blackwhip boosted - during the freak out. Compare that to what Hellboy showed Izuku and the difference is obvious.

Also, 7 or 8? There are five more.

vicarious vicarious from NC, USA Since: Feb, 2013
vicarious
#33912: Sep 11th 2019 at 8:56:11 PM

Woops, miscalculated and forgot

Yeah, imagine that freak out but in control. I’m thinking Venom even Carnage levels of power

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#33913: Sep 11th 2019 at 9:03:19 PM

He's got so much going on now. There's the extra Quirks, and learning more about the whole "soul realm" thing and the past, in addition to still needing to master base OFA.

vicarious vicarious from NC, USA Since: Feb, 2013
vicarious
#33914: Sep 11th 2019 at 10:25:16 PM

That does make me see why people would be turned off

Even though I welcomed the new developments

devak They call me.... Prophet Since: Jul, 2019 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
They call me.... Prophet
#33915: Sep 12th 2019 at 12:33:22 AM

I'd like Izuku to demonstrate like 3-4 quirks first and develop them as a "base", 1-2 that are too dangerous/difficult to use and the rest are unknown surprise quirks for a "conveniently pulled power out of nowhere" moment.

Nana's quirk should be known, and i think it would be BS if Izuku didn't figure this out anytime soon. I'd rather have the surprise be that it's a super-weak quirk but OFA made it useful. Like, she has the power to sprout weak flowers but now the quirk can sprout like half a forest. So Izuku at first is like "so it's useless?" and doesn't bother but eventually comes to realize how much more powerful it became.

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#33916: Sep 12th 2019 at 1:41:32 AM

It occurs to me that if Izuku had inherited either of his parents' Quirks, the power boost from OFA would have made him incredibly powerful. Though if he had either of their Quirks he wouldn't have gotten OFA in the first place.

Inko's Quirk is fairly minor Mind over Matter. Boosted by OFA...well, ever seen Chronicle? Or any Star Wars media?

Hisashi's Quirk is a firebreathing Quirk. Boosted by OFA, Izuku would basically be Drogon.

Edited by M84 on Sep 12th 2019 at 4:41:59 PM

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devak They call me.... Prophet Since: Jul, 2019 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
They call me.... Prophet
#33917: Sep 12th 2019 at 2:03:22 AM

Firebreathing indeed sounds like a badass quirk and i wish Izuku obtained it. Like, it turns out one of the predecessors on his father's side was a OFA bearer. Or it's just plain unrelated. Just like Bakugo's explosions have comedic value, imagine someone spitting fire except literally.

Though this kind of quirk eugenics is one of the reasons i don't like the quirk stockpiling. It basically means the best choice for a OFA bearer is whoever has the best quirk.

Edited by devak on Sep 12th 2019 at 11:04:42 AM

Eriorguez Since: Jun, 2009
#33918: Sep 12th 2019 at 2:05:04 AM

wild mass guesstongueIzuki's quirk is a combination, and can make flames gravitate towards him.

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#33919: Sep 12th 2019 at 2:06:38 AM

Ideally you wouldn't want someone who already has a very powerful Quirk. The powerboost would be almost literal overkill. If Todoroki got OFA for example, his Quirk might burn or freeze him to death the way it's implied Toya's flames killed him. Todoroki would have an especially difficult time of it, given that his Quirk requires a balancing act between the Fire and Ice aspects to avoid hurting himself.

Maybe it's for the best that Mirio didn't get OFA in the beginning — his Intangibility Quirk is already a very difficult Quirk to handle. A OFA boosted version might just send him plummeting to the center of the Earth.

Edited by M84 on Sep 12th 2019 at 5:12:37 PM

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SalFishFin Since: Jan, 2001
#33920: Sep 12th 2019 at 2:14:12 AM

Inko is limited to attraction, though, and she seems to need multiple gestures to bring something toward her.

BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: Jun, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
CHADhan Player.
#33921: Sep 12th 2019 at 2:23:13 AM

Chapter out.

And there won't be a chapter next week.

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Druplesnubb Editor of Posts Since: Dec, 2013
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#33922: Sep 12th 2019 at 2:30:48 AM

Why are you guys talking like Mirio getting OFA would boost his qiurk or that izuku would have gotte nhis quirk boosted if he had one? Their quirks wouldn't get boosted until they hand it over to someone else.

WashTheLaundryHero Since: Jun, 2019
#33923: Sep 12th 2019 at 2:35:41 AM

[up][up][up]Well, in this chapter we see that in truth Deku inherited his Ocular Gushers quirk from her.

You know, with Deku and Bakugo knowing the skeletons in Endeavor's closet from back in the Sports Festival and Hawks there full of spying devices, I think the fight against this seemingly minor villain could go very,very wrong if someone says something they shouldn't.

Edited by WashTheLaundryHero on Sep 12th 2019 at 2:38:53 AM

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#33924: Sep 12th 2019 at 3:01:48 AM

Given he talks about Hades, I think our new villain is an Af O associate?

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Wispy Since: Feb, 2017
#33925: Sep 12th 2019 at 4:03:43 AM

I want to see a The Binding Of Isaac crossover with MHA due to Deku's Ocular Gushers reminding me of it.

Edited by Wispy on Sep 12th 2019 at 4:04:31 AM


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