a bit more skepticism would probably benefit you folks here
But... but... unfounded hyperbole and wild accusations with little to no basis in fact are what the internet is for!
(Well, yeah, that other thing, too. )
edited 13th Jul '14 11:50:57 AM by Nohbody
All your safe space are belong to TrumpI can't imagine something like this shutting down Disney in its entirety. People might loose their jobs and there might be some major shake-ups, but I hardly expect something like this to kill the company outright.
Precisely! Besides, Disney is a company so large, the divisions that earn it the most money aren't even animation-related.
edited 13th Jul '14 1:43:11 PM by Buzzinator
"You can run, but you can't hide from the Buzzinator!"Besides, regardless of how many people may or may not be involved in the reported scandals, I doubt very much that the companies themselves are rotten from top to bottom all the way to the core. Regardless of who may actually get the boot and leave the companies, I'm expecting that there will still be plenty of other people who will be able to take over and keep things running.
This. It's not the corporations themselves who are jerks, it's the people in charge of them.
Looking for some stories?This is pretty damn gross. But a lot of corporate america pulls off scams like these, and all of these animation companies should be ashamed of themselves. Justice needs to be served.
I have A LOT to say about a LOT of things, and NO little minded opinions will hold MY opinion back.I agree with this. I think the people involved will get fired from their positions, but someone else might try to take over these companies instead.
I love animation, TV, movies, YOU NAME IT!Not 'might' - there will most definitely be someone to take the reigns and fill in for whoever gets the book. And I actually suspect it'll probably be pretty orderly, too.
Not even the 60's and 70's killed Disney! Disney will continue to be a huge corporation, but yeah, I predict a few shake-ups here and there. Can't really say what will happen with Dreamworks or Lucasfilm.
I can't really say much to add to this thread, except that the commentators were (predictably) being tinfoil hat-wearing jackoffs.
"When I was alive, I was a tender soul. Now, I am tenderloin." -Nanako (Senryuu Shoujo)I want to read some of these fucking comments, honestly (just for laughs, of course!).
Even if I had different face, I AM STILL DISGRACED.Dreamworks I don't know, but considering that Lucasfilm is now owned by Disney, whatever happens to Disney is likely to be intertwined with whatever happens to Lucasfilm.
As they should.
Looking for some stories?I absolutely LOVE how Titan AE is blamed for the shutdown of Fox Animation.
Here is a short history lesson:
Fox wanted to make the next Star Wars, a super sci fi bestseller that would make them billions and take the world by storm. They gave Bluth & Co. roughly a year to make a super successful blockbuster. Little to no promotion or marketing was given. After the film failed to become the best thing since Citizen Cane, Bluth & Co. were laid off, and the animation department was closed.
Just spreading the facts like a virus, hoping to infect as much people as possible.
edited 10th Sep '14 7:45:05 PM by KlarkKentThe3rd
Companies love blaming anybody or anything but themselves (or more specifically their marketing department) when a movie flops or under-performs. See also Disney blaming the traditional animation medium for The Princess And The Frog not being the next The Lion King when it's up against a ton of other movies, one of them being Avatar.
My tropes launched: https://surenity2.blogspot.com/2021/02/my-tropes-on-tv-tropes.htmlAnd it's not like Chicken Little and Bolt being either panned or pretty much instantly forgotten killed Disney's interest on CGI (Princess and the Frog is better remembered than those two), so it's obvious they just wanted to stick to the slightest excuse they could imagine to axe 2D. They already had made their minds on it.
edited 10th Sep '14 9:03:57 PM by NapoleonDeCheese
I do have to wonder though, what would happen if traditional animation does make a comeback? How would Disney deal with that?
I love animation, TV, movies, YOU NAME IT!If pure 2D animation (that is, 2D entirely without any 3D aspects - Moana is going to be part hand-drawn part 3D, like Paperman) somehow made a major comeback and became seriously lucrative again, Disney would be all over it like ears on a Mickey (excepting of course that recent short where his ears went missing). Corporation trying to make money and all that.
"The difference between reality and fiction is that fiction has to make sense." - Tom Clancy, paraphrasing Mark Twain.Disney might try their own...after all, the company is celebrating its 100th Birthday in nine years. They should coming up with something special for that...which means, in my book, something traditionally animated.
However this whole affair will end, if they can even proof something illegal, it will barely made a dent into Disney's Vaults. The Company has been around for so long, it wont be brought down that easily.
This is frustrating to me. In 9 years, Disney will just do something CGI. I bet you anything.
They will do something that starts 2D and hand drawn but quickly changes into 3D CGI for most of its duration because that's THE FUUUUUUUTURE, MAN.
And of course, the usually ignored will be ignored again (Black Cauldron, Disney Afternoon et al).
And then that movie will constantly be compared to Spongebob Squarepants 3D: Sponge Out Of Water, shaming Disney forever.
edited 11th Sep '14 10:55:15 AM by kyun
If the Hullabaloo project takes off (and it is amazing how fast they reach their financial goals) it might do a lot to make Disney rethink their stance on traditional animation.
Assuming this is even legitimate (a bit more skepticism would probably benefit you folks here) likely nothing as they're all big businesses and can just pay the government off.
Besides, can you imagine the outrage shutting down Disney would cause?
edited 13th Jul '14 11:30:04 AM by Grounder