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StarformDCX Starform from Ontario Since: Jul, 2013 Relationship Status: Abstaining
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#19051: Aug 13th 2022 at 3:09:21 PM

(shrug) I don't believe there's such a thing as "too cute". cool

Character changes are inevitable. When we complain about them (and we all complain about them at some point) we do it because we find the earlier take more compelling. In the preview for next week's Flash issue, Mr. Terrific says "and Heaven help anyone that stands in her way." I've recently been re-reading the JSA series of the early 2000s, and Geoff Johns and David Goyer would never put that sentence in the mouth of the staunchly atheist Michael Holt they wrote (actually, "atheist" doesn't quite cover it; Michael is uncomfortable whenever magic, reincarnation, and afterlives are discussed, whether gods are involved or not. He's a materialist [in the philosophical sense of that word] who's a bit bothered by the fact that he lives in a fantasy setting). But Jeremy Adams writes a very Christianity-influenced Flash comic, (mostly to results I appreciate, like the Spectre getting written in a way that doesn't make me cringe as a Christian reader or Jay Garrick's faith getting confirmed, something that actually does match his Johns/Goyer characterization as a teetotaler and a bit of a moralist), and this kind of thing can result. The preoccupations of the author inevitably bleed into their work, and cuteness is one of Taylor's preoccupations. What happened happened and couldn't have happened any other way.

Edited by StarformDCX on Aug 13th 2022 at 6:21:05 AM

The five best Superman writers are Dan Jurgens, Jeph Loeb, Geoff Johns, Kurt Busiek, and Peter J. Tomasi.
slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: Aug, 2015
The Head of the Hydra
#19052: Aug 13th 2022 at 3:49:37 PM

I mean this is more than just a throwaway line.

Deadshot's entire behavior in this book is honestly OOC, with him possessing none of his more psychopathic traits. He may as well be a completely different character.

I saw one person point out that Zoe's whole "Liveshot" thing and naming the dog Dogshot comes off as Taylor attempt recreate his success with Gabby and her pet wolverine in his All-New Wolverine book.

The overtly cutsey nature of everything just does not fit the character. It works for Nightwing where Taylor currently has him taking care of a 3-legged puppy but it doesn't work for a character who is a nihilistic psycho mercenary.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
StarformDCX Starform from Ontario Since: Jul, 2013 Relationship Status: Abstaining
Starform
#19053: Aug 13th 2022 at 4:32:02 PM

Fair enough. I didn't care for that Squad story either (not because of its take on Deadshot, who I figured had just mellowed because of time passing and the fact that his most "psychotic" actions happened pre-Flashpoint, but because it was a Fugitive Arc and I find that trope overused). I haven't read Task Force Z. Is he psychotic there?

I enjoyed All-New Wolverine. I can understand why Taylor would be tempted to revisit ideas from it.

Edited by StarformDCX on Aug 13th 2022 at 7:49:33 AM

The five best Superman writers are Dan Jurgens, Jeph Loeb, Geoff Johns, Kurt Busiek, and Peter J. Tomasi.
slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: Aug, 2015
The Head of the Hydra
#19054: Aug 13th 2022 at 5:04:56 PM

I'm pretty behind on that so I'm not sure. Last I checked Floyd was more confused and shocked over being a zombie so he doesn't have time to be a psycho as a result.

Though apparently he died again, his brain got fully destroyed meaning the lazarus resin doesn't work on him anymore.

Poor dude died twice. tongue

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Robbery Since: Jul, 2012
#19055: Aug 13th 2022 at 9:01:01 PM

Re: Mr.Terrific saying "...and Heaven help anyone who stands in her way."

Lots of atheists in real life frequently say such things ("my God," "Heaven help us," "Jesus Christ" used as an expression of surprise or consternation) because, beyond their religious significance, they're popular expressions in the English language. I'd venture to say when most English speakers, regardless of their religious affiliation or lack thereof, say "my God" they aren't actually appealing to God, they're just expressing surprise.

So yeah, as [up] said, it was just a throwaway line.

Edited by Robbery on Aug 13th 2022 at 9:01:40 AM

StarformDCX Starform from Ontario Since: Jul, 2013 Relationship Status: Abstaining
Starform
#19056: Aug 14th 2022 at 5:34:28 AM

Fair enough. I suppose one line of dialogue isn't the same thing as Adams carelessly disregarding what's established about the character. To me, Michael comes off as the kind of person who would make a conscious effort to purge his vocabulary of that kind of idiom, but maybe that's just headcanon.

I wonder what a Suicide Squad story written by Christopher Priest would be like. There definitely would be nothing cute in it.

Edited by StarformDCX on Aug 14th 2022 at 9:41:01 AM

The five best Superman writers are Dan Jurgens, Jeph Loeb, Geoff Johns, Kurt Busiek, and Peter J. Tomasi.
slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: Aug, 2015
The Head of the Hydra
#19057: Aug 14th 2022 at 11:02:40 AM

How off-kilter Floyd is in this run is like if Deathstroke was portrayed as a good guy who loves his family and simply wants to retire from the life to be with them.

Thats how bad it is. tongue

[up] Considering he can handle nuance pretty well he could prolly write a better Waller than she has been in years.

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Aleistar Since: Feb, 2018 Relationship Status: Hugging my pillow
slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: Aug, 2015
The Head of the Hydra
#19059: Aug 14th 2022 at 2:26:03 PM

From what I hear possibly not good. He has an issue with constantly forcing funny and wholesome moments even in stories that don't work.

His Suicide Squad is pretty indicative as he took a previously grey in morality title and made it stark black and white.

Deadshot, Harley, and the Revolutionaries were all pretty much anti-heroes at worst.

Edited by slimcoder on Aug 14th 2022 at 2:26:37 AM

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Joshbones Since: May, 2015
#19060: Aug 16th 2022 at 2:50:09 PM

The latest issue of Dark Crisis Young Justice is better than the last, I'd say.

The meta angle is dropped, it's mostly interpersonal relationships. What does confuse me is that they spent a lot of time focusing on Tim and Cassie kissing when Connor was dead, cause I didn't think that was very important in the long run. Bart got a lot of focus, and I think it was for the best, as his character has been the most consistent in the miniseries overall.

suzaku Since: Sep, 2017
#19061: Aug 16th 2022 at 6:12:20 PM

Dark Crisis YJ is focusing on this because Fitzmartin hinted she wants to address Tim potentially having feelings for Kon and is using the kiss as drama for it which is a lazy retcon and reeks of fanfiction as plenty of timkon fics use this point for drama.

This issue was mediocore as it got so many things wrong like implying Kon was once the leader or confusing Kon's death with his missing time in Gemworld. Like I wonder if Fitzmartin even read anything about these characters.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: Aug, 2015
The Head of the Hydra
#19062: Aug 16th 2022 at 6:20:27 PM

Con being leader is prolly the most egregious continuity error on multiple counts since it was Tim and then Cass who were the leaders, which Con attempting to but ultimately quickly backing out from the position.

Plus the fact that Cass was the leader immediately damages her claims of the YJ era being more sexist than it actually was as she's denying that the women there did in fact have more agency than "being entirely defined by the boys".

Edited by slimcoder on Aug 16th 2022 at 6:20:46 AM

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
TargetmasterJoe Since: May, 2013
#19063: Aug 18th 2022 at 7:28:23 AM

[up] I don't even know how to process all of that. sad

In other news, after a lot of dead-end hints and false starts, the WildC.A.T.s are FINALLY coming back with a vengeance in a new series by writer Matthew Rosenberg (I think the writer for the Grifter stories we've been getting lately) and artist Stephen Segovia!

WILDC.A.T.S. #1

Spinning from the pages of BATMAN comes the senses-shattering new series! The HALO Corporation has gathered a motley crew of operatives, led by Cole "Grifter" Cash, who are going to make the world a better place...no matter who they have to kill! Working in the shadows of the DC Universe, this new covert team has been tasked with gathering an elite group of scientists for the first phase of their plan...but the 'Cats mysterious leader, Void, might have other plans!

WILDC.A.T.s# 2 The mission has gone sideways for the 'Cats team as they inadvertently run afoul of the LAST group they wanted to cross paths with...the Court of Owls! It's the fight of the year with Talon vs Zealot!

We're also getting a DC Black Label miniseries called Waller vs. Wildstorm!

In the early 1980s, as the Cold War stubbornly refuses to thaw, a new battle heats up...for the soul of the intelligence agency Checkmate. As the agency’s super-heroic public face, Jackson King—a.k.a. The armored Battalion, former leader of Stormwatch and the symbol of American might—has long suspected that Adeline Kane is up to dirty tricks overseas, engineering horrors that betray everything he believes about service to one’s country. But King doesn't know that Kane has a clever new ally—an ambitious young woman named Amanda Waller. She has her own ideas about how metahumans can serve their country. And honor, dignity, and long lives don’t factor into them... National-security reporter Spencer Ackerman (The Daily Beast, Reign of Terror), comics and video game writer Evan Narcisse (Black Panther, Spider-Man: Miles Morales, Batman: Gotham Knights - Gilded City), and veteran artist Eric Battle (Aquaman, Kobalt) celebrate WildStorm's legacy of espionage-flavored superhero morality plays, pitting Stormwatch against the deadliest people in the DCU—including Deathstroke himself!

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: Aug, 2015
The Head of the Hydra
#19064: Aug 18th 2022 at 1:29:34 PM

The Justice Society is also back

Move over, Scottober: DC’s bringing out Geoffvember this fall. The publisher has announced three new Geoff Johns-written titles set to debut in November, including a relaunch of the Justice Society of America and a Stargirl miniseries.

It all kicks off with The New Golden Age, a one-shot set to arrive on November 8th. Written by Johns, the issue features art by Steve Lieber, Jerry Ordway, and Diego Olortegui, with covers by Mikel Janín, Gary Frank, Todd Nauck, Mike Allred, David Talaski, and Dan Hipp. Here’s how DC describes the one-shot, which spins out of the conclusion of the currently-running Flashpoint Beyond series:

DC’s future…and its past…will never be the same again. But how are Mime and Marionette connected to this? Why are Rip Hunter and the Time Masters the most unlikable heroes in the DC Universe? And who or what is…Nostalgia? Don’t miss the start of the strangest mystery to have ever plagued the DC Universe.

Nostalgia is the greatest villain comics have ever faced, and Johns has arguably been one of the driving forces of that nostalgia for the past twenty-five years – will he exhibit some self-awareness on that front in this book? Here are Nauck, Allred, and Hipp’s variant covers for that issue:

Following The New Golden Age comes the November 22nd launch of a new Justice Society of America ongoing series by Johns and Mikel Janín. The debut issue for that series will sport cover a main cover by Janín and variants by Yanick Paquette, Joe Quinones, Ordway, and Lieber.

After making their long awaited return in the pages of Dark Crisis on Infinite Earths #3, the Justice Society of America (JSA) are back in “Justice Society of America: The New Golden Age Part One.” Or are they? A long-lost hero from the JSA crashes into our era with a grave warning…but it’s too late. A mysterious and malevolent enemy has invaded the entire history of the JSA, and an all-new team must come together to defeat it. But what deadly secret does this messenger from beyond keep? Where are they from? And why is all of this happening now? Only the Time Masters know…

“There will be familiar faces re-joining the team, like Jay Garrick and Alan Scott, as well as long-lost members returning, like Beth Chapel and Yolanda Montez, and a new Golden Age legacy hero first hinted at in the end of Flashpoint Beyond. Mikel Janin is doing the work of his career on this,” added Johns.

It’s nice to see a fresh new face taking on the Justice Society. Johns has only previously written the team once before, helming their ongoing adventures from 1999 until 2009.

Also spinning out of The New Golden Age will be Stargirl: The Lost Children, which also serves as a follow-up to the Stargirl Spring Break Special that came out over a year ago and you’re forgiven if you’ve forgotten about. Written by Johns and illustrated by Todd Nauck, the six-issue miniseries finds Stargirl and a few other young heroes up against a new villain with an interesting name:

When Stargirl of the Justice Society and Green Arrow’s ally Red Arrow discover a tragic teenage hero from the past has gone missing, they set out to find him…only to discover he’s not the first teenage hero of the Golden Age to have vanished without a trace. But where have they gone? Who are they? And what does the Childminder want with them?

Look for The New Golden Age, Justice Society of America #1, and Stargirl: The Lost Children #1 (of 6) to all arrive in stores and digitally in November.

We're also getting a new Legion series by him down the line too

Edited by slimcoder on Aug 18th 2022 at 1:34:23 AM

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Deadpoolrocks Since: Sep, 2010
#19065: Aug 18th 2022 at 6:16:29 PM

I guess since discovery wb cancelled all dc shows, johns has time for comics again

RedM Since: Oct, 2012 Relationship Status: You can be my wingman any time
#19066: Aug 18th 2022 at 8:15:22 PM

It’s nice to see a fresh new face taking on the Justice Society. Johns has only previously written the team once before, helming their ongoing adventures from 1999 until 2009.

I wouldn't call someone who had a ten-year run a "fresh face", but still kind of cool news.

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TargetmasterJoe Since: May, 2013
#19067: Aug 18th 2022 at 8:16:40 PM

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We're also getting a new Legion series by him down the line too

Whoa, we are?! surprised Where did you hear that? Because I'm not seeing it in the article you posted. Anything to take my mind off the Bendis LOSH...

Edited by TargetmasterJoe on Aug 19th 2022 at 7:22:48 AM

Deadpoolrocks Since: Sep, 2010
#19068: Aug 18th 2022 at 8:25:52 PM

[up][up]maybe they mean janin?

Edited by Deadpoolrocks on Aug 18th 2022 at 8:26:02 AM

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: Aug, 2015
The Head of the Hydra
#19069: Aug 18th 2022 at 8:28:29 PM

[up][up] From here on the DC site

“I’m happy to be writing these two titles, each one of them focused on celebrating and expanding the history (and far future) of heroism in the DC Universe, exploring unseen heroes, villains and adventures alongside the ones we all know and love,” said Geoff Johns. “Our goal is to delve into the neglected corners of DC with this new group of titles, from the JSA to the Legion', and all those who operate between. It’s the story of where superheroes came from, where they’re going and why they’re always needed.”

So its not a hard announcement but it indicated from the looks it

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HamburgerTime The Merry Monarch of Darkness from Dark World, where we do sincerely have cookies Since: Apr, 2010 Relationship Status: I know
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#19070: Aug 19th 2022 at 5:42:05 AM

Johns back on JSA, damn… even people who don’t like his other stuff think his JSA was gold.

The pig of Hufflepuff pulsed like a large bullfrog. Dumbledore smiled at it, and placed his hand on its head: "You are Hagrid now."
StarformDCX Starform from Ontario Since: Jul, 2013 Relationship Status: Abstaining
Starform
#19071: Aug 19th 2022 at 6:15:03 AM

This is very good news!

The five best Superman writers are Dan Jurgens, Jeph Loeb, Geoff Johns, Kurt Busiek, and Peter J. Tomasi.
HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#19072: Aug 19th 2022 at 9:46:11 AM

DCeased: War of the Undead Gods begins.

We see the preview with Kara landing on New Genesis. In this universe, she was sent there deliberately instead. Whoops.

Meanwhile, after they've cured everyone else on earth, the heroes set to work on curing Superman, who's still trying to drain the sun. He puts up a hell of a fight due to five years worth of sun dipping but they pull it off. Both he and Jonathan (old man) Kent reunite with Lois (who's president of the new planet earth) and Martha.

Meanwhile, Alfred is torn up over realizing that Bruce, Tim and Dick could have been cured. Damina tries to comfort him, but it doesn't mean much to the best Butler.

Finally, Brainiac starts attacking, but Clark, Jon, and the Green Lanterns take him to school. The Supermen enter Brainiac's ship, only to find him a complete mess, warning them about the infected New Gods.

One Strip! One Strip!
StarformDCX Starform from Ontario Since: Jul, 2013 Relationship Status: Abstaining
Starform
#19073: Aug 20th 2022 at 7:42:36 AM

It looks like Adams' Flash will be remaking Venditti/Jensen's Full Stop arc, but with Wally. I enjoyed Full Stop (it was the only New 52 Flash arc I liked), but I don't see any need to pay for a remake of it, so I think I'm going back to borrowing Flash trades from the library after issue 787. Adams seems to be fully ensconced on the book (he's hyping up a Flash event happening in the middle of next year) so I think I did my part.

Edited by StarformDCX on Aug 20th 2022 at 10:45:42 AM

The five best Superman writers are Dan Jurgens, Jeph Loeb, Geoff Johns, Kurt Busiek, and Peter J. Tomasi.
TargetmasterJoe Since: May, 2013
#19074: Aug 30th 2022 at 12:59:35 PM

Not long ago, social media raised a fuss when a variant cover for Titans United: Bloodpact themed around Hispanic Heritage Month was just Kyle Rayner with a bag of tamales instead of being an homage to "La Patria" by Jorge González Camarena due to legal issues.

BUT! Jorge Molina revealed recently that the original cover homaging La Patria will be the true variant cover!

Edited by TargetmasterJoe on Aug 30th 2022 at 6:15:51 AM

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: Aug, 2015
The Head of the Hydra
#19075: Aug 31st 2022 at 3:29:00 AM

And thus with Superman: Warworld Apocalypse we have reached the epic conclusion of the Warworld Saga.

The day is saved, the remaining Authority members are brought back, Mongul is defeated but at several costs. Omac sacrificed himself to resurrect Lightray, Leonath the Warzoon helping them sacrificed himself to power the Star Forge repowring Superman and the Phaelosians, Kryl-Ux Superman's gladiator mentor is revealed to be Mongul's secret ally and backstabs Mongul taking power over the tribes not sworn loyalty to Superman's ideals and swears vengeance upon Thaaros and the United Planets.

And back on Earth the first thing Superman does is give Lois a kiss in the sky just like when he left.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."

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