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alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#10051: Jan 24th 2019 at 3:29:27 PM

He wrote, uh, (checks Wikipedia) OMAC vol 3 #1-8 and Infinity Man and the Forever People #1-9.

...Yeah, I don't know he why as promoted either. Joe Quesada was at least responsible for Marvel Knights and hiring a bunch of great talent.

Edited by alliterator on Jan 24th 2019 at 3:29:59 AM

bookworm6390 Since: Mar, 2013 Relationship Status: Abstaining
#10052: Jan 24th 2019 at 3:31:21 PM

I must be weird, because I like the old Superman comics. They may have been silly, but it was still fun.

RodimusMinor Professional Complainer Since: Oct, 2018
Professional Complainer
#10053: Jan 24th 2019 at 3:39:33 PM

Silver Age Superman is a treasure of boundless imagination.

alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#10054: Jan 24th 2019 at 3:40:27 PM

Which is funny, because they regularly recycled stories in the Silver Age. They thought that readers wouldn't notice after three years.

bookworm6390 Since: Mar, 2013 Relationship Status: Abstaining
#10055: Jan 24th 2019 at 4:26:36 PM

One would think the characters should say Oh, No... Not Again! .

kkhohoho Since: May, 2011
#10056: Jan 24th 2019 at 4:30:16 PM

From what I've read, the Bronze Age stuff was fun. Especially Elliot S. Maggin. That's really what Superman should be about. Just crazy-ass balls to the walls insanity. If you're gonna make your hero uper-powerful, you might as well scale up the situations he gets in to match.

RodimusMinor Professional Complainer Since: Oct, 2018
Professional Complainer
#10057: Jan 24th 2019 at 4:38:33 PM

I'm still waiting for my Superman's Pal: Jimmy Olsen omnibus.

bookworm6390 Since: Mar, 2013 Relationship Status: Abstaining
#10058: Jan 24th 2019 at 5:38:14 PM

How about a series where Lois Lane and Batman team up to solve crimes and report them? Sound crazy enough?

alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#10059: Jan 24th 2019 at 6:08:55 PM

Greg Rucka is supposed to be writing a Lois Lane series sometime soon. Which I will buy immediately because Greg Rucka is awesome and Lois Lane is awesome.

Edited by alliterator on Jan 24th 2019 at 6:09:22 AM

windleopard from Nigeria Since: Nov, 2014 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
#10060: Jan 24th 2019 at 7:56:15 PM

I heard Didio's OMAC series was good but few people bought it because he wrote it. Also, he fought to keep Jaime Reyes' book going even when it didn't have the sales backing it so I guess he doesn't hate all legacy characters.

kkhohoho Since: May, 2011
#10061: Jan 24th 2019 at 8:17:51 PM

[up]Well of course.

Jaime was actually made by DC.

Those hacks from Charlton and Fox can suck it.

Edited by kkhohoho on Jan 24th 2019 at 10:18:24 AM

windleopard from Nigeria Since: Nov, 2014 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
#10062: Jan 24th 2019 at 10:22:35 PM

I mean, Cass was made by DC too and look how she's been treated.

kkhohoho Since: May, 2011
#10063: Jan 24th 2019 at 10:26:12 PM

[up]Except Cass's predecessors were actually made by DC. Whereas Jaime's were not.

alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#10064: Jan 24th 2019 at 10:45:05 PM

I really don't think that Didio bears a grudge against the first two Blue Beetles because they weren't created by DC. Honestly, from what I've read, he wants to kill off or remove characters that he believes are "redundant" — Jaime Reyes wasn't redundant, since the other two Blue Beetles were already dead. He's gotten a bit better at this over time, but you'll notice that when there are two of any character name (aside from Green Lanterns), he'll want one of them to either die or go away.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: Aug, 2015
The Head of the Hydra
#10065: Jan 24th 2019 at 10:50:31 PM

He's not a very fun man.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
windleopard from Nigeria Since: Nov, 2014 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
#10066: Jan 24th 2019 at 10:51:04 PM

Except Cass's predecessors were actually made by DC. Whereas Jaime's were not.

I understand that. I just don't believe the reason the Charlton guys got the shaft was solely because they weren't originally DC creations. There are too many DC original creations that got shafted under Didio for that to truly hold water.

Edit: [nja]'d by alliterator.

Edited by windleopard on Jan 24th 2019 at 10:54:35 AM

kkhohoho Since: May, 2011
#10067: Jan 24th 2019 at 10:51:41 PM

[up]

Jaime Reyes wasn't redundant, since the other two Blue Beetles were already dead.

How does that explain Barry? Wasn't he already dead too?

Edited by kkhohoho on Jan 24th 2019 at 12:51:59 PM

Deadpoolrocks Since: Sep, 2010
#10068: Jan 24th 2019 at 10:57:54 PM

the flash was a solid b plus lister at the time

the beetles were d plus

alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#10069: Jan 24th 2019 at 11:06:00 PM

How does that explain Barry? Wasn't he already dead too?
When Barry was dead, Wally was fine. When Barry came back to life in Final Crisis, you'll notice that Wally was almost immediately sidelined. And then, when it came time to reboot the entire thing, where's the original Wally? Nowhere to be found.

The only ones that managed to escape this was the Green Lanterns, because, well, they were an entire Corps of them. Also, Geoff Johns was in the middle of his GL epic and Didio didn't want to touch any of that.

By the way, when Stephanie Brown became Batgirl, Cass was sidelined. And Didio apparently hated Stephanie as Batgirl, insisting that Barbara Gordon return to the mantle once the New 52 came around...which meant that both Stephanie and Cass were sidelined until, finally, Batman and Robin Eternal happened and the Detective Comics Rebirth got them back close to their original selves (still without calling either one "Batgirl" though).

I still want a Orphan/Spoiler roadtrip book. Hey, Tim Drake is on Young Justice, we need to know what Spoiler is doing.

Edited by alliterator on Jan 24th 2019 at 11:08:37 AM

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: Aug, 2015
The Head of the Hydra
#10070: Jan 24th 2019 at 11:09:09 PM

Man he is way too restrictive.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#10071: Jan 24th 2019 at 11:17:15 PM

Yeah and apparently he's kind of obsessed with how Marvel outsells DC and thinks it has to do with Marvel telling more "dark" and "mature" stories (hence why he insisted on a lot of killing and death) when, really, Marvel makes just as many mistakes as DC, they just moved past them and try different things. DC has a really hard time trying something different when they think they have a formula that works (see: all of the art styles of the New 52) or, if they do try something different, they'll get gun shy about it if it immediately doesn't get results (see: DC You, DC's "experimental" phase after the New 52 — almost all of the books were great, but they didn't last long because DC wanted to go "back to basics" with DC Rebirth, which, thankfully, happened to be good, too).

Edited by alliterator on Jan 24th 2019 at 11:17:39 AM

Deadpoolrocks Since: Sep, 2010
#10072: Jan 24th 2019 at 11:20:31 PM

they wanted to go back to basics after dc you because the sales were awful. most of the new books lasted 6 issues the only reason omega man finished is because of fan outcry

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: Aug, 2015
The Head of the Hydra
#10073: Jan 24th 2019 at 11:20:38 PM

At this point if he's really responsible for this shit, his influence is far more damaging & toxic than positive.

[up] Ya gotta love it when fans band together & produce something positive. Always a wondrous sight.

Edited by slimcoder on Jan 24th 2019 at 11:21:20 AM

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#10074: Jan 24th 2019 at 11:31:04 PM

they wanted to go back to basics after dc you because the sales were awful.
Sales were awful because the books had, basically, no backing. I didn't even know about any of the books coming out until most of them were already cancelled. Hell, I would have loved to buy Omega Men as it was coming out, but by the time I knew how good it was, it was already almost over. (And DC refused to make a six-issue trade paperback, insisting that a trade only come out with all twelve issues, so that if you want to catch up you either had to buy all the single issues or wait for months after the series was over for the trade.) (I mean, you can immediately compare with what Marvel was doing with Tom King's The Vision at about the same time — they promoted the hell out of it, even including the first issue with another comic for free and then releasing the trades with six issues each.)

Black Canary, Midnighter, Omega Men, Prez, Robin: Son of Batman, Starfire, We Are Robin, and Superman: Lois and Clark were all legit great titles and showed the kind of genre range that Marvel and Image had that DC was lacking. (We also got great limited series like Poison Ivy: Cycle of Death and Rebirth and Superman: American Alien).

Edited by alliterator on Jan 24th 2019 at 11:35:21 AM

windleopard from Nigeria Since: Nov, 2014 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
#10075: Jan 25th 2019 at 12:51:58 AM

Even now, DC is squandering a lot of the good will earned from Rebirth with stuff like the Batman wedding issue and Heroes in Crisis.


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