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MyssaRei Since: Feb, 2010
#51: Jul 20th 2013 at 6:55:40 PM

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I'll be surprised if they DON'T pull that plot card on us eventually, especially with the headmistress' comment in episode two. If that does happen though, we'll get to see how succession between card holders occurs, as I assume that Hinata and Akari's case (from mother to daughter) is unusual.

Hylarn (Don’t ask)
#52: Jul 20th 2013 at 7:04:04 PM

I'm thinking Seira. Mostly because they show her toy llama with daemonia static in the OP, but there's also emphasis on her being unhappy, and they seem to be withholding her backstory. I think Luna is safe, since they already did Akari killing her closest friend with Fuyuna

greedling Since: Feb, 2010
#53: Jul 20th 2013 at 7:47:47 PM

I'm sort of surprised they didn't have any bystanders die, after all that it's been trying to show itself as dark. Especially with the first episode. If they didn't want to show little kids dying they could've just had a different monster this episode, or had collateral damage while the kids remain safe somehow, but of course the series is already tormenting young girls.

(Well, while actually watching I didn't feel like the characters in front of me were going to be killed right that instant, but in retrospect that's not what I expected out of this show.)

It would've been nice to show victims because then that would properly show why the experienced girls consider it their duty to kill the Daemonia without even considering what feelings the Daemonia could possibly have or whether it should be considered murder—even if the host didn't want to die, if the Daemonia are still killing people then that has to be stopped. It would show the price of trying to save the Daemonia or even hesitating too long over killing them. It might delay Akari's return to the battlefield, since she wouldn't get anything convenient like the Daemonia's host wanting to die... but it wouldn't have to, because she could feel bad about killing Daemonia but even worse about more victims. And she'd have traumatic flashbacks for both choices! And connect her new traumatic memory with the fortune tellers dying! How great is that.

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kiukiuclk from 3.1415926535897932384626433832795028841971693 Since: Feb, 2013 Relationship Status: My TiMER is ticking
#54: Jul 21st 2013 at 2:54:19 AM

Well, given the title (il sole penetra le illusioni), I'm not sure Akari can save them, but there is something there. My guess is she may eventually be able to find them before they emerge or something

I wonder if Hinata fell and they just faked Akari's memories again.

I'm glad they didn't drag out Akari angsting to long.

universalperson Since: Jan, 2001
#55: Jul 21st 2013 at 1:00:10 PM

[up]...if she did then no-one would remember her, including aunt and fortune teller companions.

edited 21st Jul '13 1:00:37 PM by universalperson

Sterok Since: Apr, 2012
#56: Jul 21st 2013 at 6:59:56 PM

Akari makes her choice. It was obvious, but the way it was done is interesting. Being able to hear them is definitely something that will be used. The others all have their own way of dealing with this. The mascots certainly seem sinister.

Ruise Nyanpasu~ from your subconscious Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: It's not my fault I'm not popular!
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#57: Jul 21st 2013 at 8:00:05 PM

Well, this has gotten better, and I understand what is going on a lot better now, too. I've also come to terms with the character designs. Like everyone else, I am wondering where they are going to take Akari's ability to communicate with those possessed by daemonia.

Why would any of the tarot girls be infected though? The tarot users all know what the outcome of making a deal with a daemonia always is. That would be incredibly stupid of her.

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MyssaRei Since: Feb, 2010
#58: Jul 21st 2013 at 8:39:34 PM

What I got this time around is that those infected and promised with a wish don't necessarily GET what they want. The guy this episode was promised the life of his son in return for killing other children after all...

Hylarn (Don’t ask)
#59: Jul 21st 2013 at 8:48:27 PM

I'm not certain how the wish-offering and infection actually works. It's fairly common for these sort of things to be subconscious, in a dream, or similar. Also, there's that whole thing about a dormancy period, so it could have occurred before they knew what was happening

On a related note, I wouldn't be surprised if it turned out that absolutely everyone is a dormant daemonia

fillerdude Since: Jul, 2010
#60: Jul 23rd 2013 at 6:13:14 AM

I really, really wish that Akari's hesitance had gotten people killed. It would have been a much more interesting moral dilemma, for starters.

[up] The Daemonia thing definitely sounds like a disease,what with how it is discussed in this episode (infecting hosts, dormancy, dividing to multiply, even the imagery used).

kiukiuclk from 3.1415926535897932384626433832795028841971693 Since: Feb, 2013 Relationship Status: My TiMER is ticking
#61: Jul 23rd 2013 at 6:28:42 AM

The Daemonia thing isn't a disease though, it's based on cards right? And there is a limited number of tarot cards.

AnotherDuck No, the other one. from Stockholm Since: Jul, 2012 Relationship Status: Mu
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#62: Jul 23rd 2013 at 6:31:02 AM

It doesn't sound so limited when they're speaking about percentages of the population.

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Ruise Nyanpasu~ from your subconscious Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: It's not my fault I'm not popular!
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#63: Jul 23rd 2013 at 7:35:49 AM

They breed inside the host's body, so they can spread indefinitely.

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universalperson Since: Jan, 2001
#64: Jul 27th 2013 at 12:51:18 PM

New ep is out. Meet our villain. And Seira just raised another And John Was A Zombie flag. Daemonia of this episode was The Devil.

Next episode is Ginka-centric.

Hylarn (Don’t ask)
#65: Jul 27th 2013 at 2:42:43 PM

"I never heard of someone using Element Tarot being able to do that."

Foreshadowing?

I like that we never get to see Yume's paintings. Makes it ambiguous whether Kiyone was justified in how she felt

Not sure about the villain's gender. What's with this season and androgyny?

I think Seira's backstory is similar to Akari's, but she's taking the opposite path in dealing with it

edited 27th Jul '13 2:43:02 PM by Hylarn

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#66: Jul 27th 2013 at 8:36:16 PM

I'm pretty sure the guy wearing the cloak was a guy.

Sometimes, the monsters were jerks to begin with.

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Hylarn (Don’t ask)
#67: Jul 27th 2013 at 9:57:03 PM

Theorydump!

Seira: Reverse Akari. She killed a close friend who'd gone daemonia, but deals with it by insisting that what she did wasn't wrong. Also, said friend gave her that llama doll

Luna: Related to those ominous businessmen at the end of episode 4. The reason for all that talk in her flashback about her being damaged goods only useful as a hostage is that elemental tarot users aren't exactly valued by people using the diabolos

Akari: Did get possessed after killing Fuyuna. It just interacted oddly with a semi-awakened elemental tarot. This'll likely make Seira try to kill her

Also, the tarot card of the week bit makes me think the show will be two cours

Gilphon Since: Oct, 2009
#68: Jul 27th 2013 at 11:42:46 PM

Well- Twenty Two is a bit of an odd number of episodes for that, but I suppose it's possible.

It seems like we'd run out of Major Arcana before then, though. Unless we start getting Daemonia versions of cards we've seen in elemental form. Or repeats among the Daemonia, I suppose.

edited 27th Jul '13 11:53:13 PM by Gilphon

Hylarn (Don’t ask)
#69: Jul 27th 2013 at 11:52:07 PM

The last episode wouldn't have one to begin with (as it's theoretically the preview), so we'd only need one more episode without to get to the standard 24. Which wouldn't be that hard; breaking with tradition for the second-to-last episode's ending to emphasize how serious things are is pretty common

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#70: Jul 28th 2013 at 6:17:33 AM

I liked that transition in the beginning, with the splattered paint and lights.

I kinda agree about Star. She's saying you can't do anything but kill them. She means she couldn't do anything but kill whoever it was. Well, that's the standard plot, at least.

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MyssaRei Since: Feb, 2010
#71: Jul 28th 2013 at 6:58:19 AM

I found it interesting how the implication is that literally ANYONE can turn into a daemonia, but only after they're singled out by that fortune-teller and given a dark tarot. Also, after getting their wish, they're pretty much just tools for the ones using the Dark Tarot in the first place (see how the funeral service attack was pretty much a glorified hit on the head of a rival company).

That's a heck of an induced motive decay though. Funny how the fortune teller gave the push from "You hate her, kill her", to "You hate him, kill him", to "You hate EVERYONE, go wild!".

edited 28th Jul '13 7:12:31 AM by MyssaRei

Hylarn (Don’t ask)
#72: Jul 28th 2013 at 2:28:00 PM

I found it interesting how the implication is that literally ANYONE can turn into a daemonia, but only after they're singled out by that fortune-teller and given a dark tarot.

I don't think the fortuneteller is a necessary step. Doesn't match how the characters treat it, and there's a few things that are different from the other daemonia we've seen

universalperson Since: Jan, 2001
#73: Jul 28th 2013 at 4:02:18 PM

The fortune teller seemed...special.

My guess? Bishonen Lined Daemonia.

edited 28th Jul '13 4:05:26 PM by universalperson

Ruise Nyanpasu~ from your subconscious Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: It's not my fault I'm not popular!
Nyanpasu~
#74: Jul 28th 2013 at 4:26:54 PM

Their classes are so empty...they should have minor arcana support squad/background characters. Page of Pentacles-kun, Two of Cups-chan...The minor arcana get no love.

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fillerdude Since: Jul, 2010
#75: Aug 1st 2013 at 3:14:34 AM

I knew I wouldn't be the only one who liked the paints-to-lights scene transition. smile I was also rather impressed by the chalk illustration of the Tree of Life. How much time did the teacher spend drawing that on the blackboard? XD

I quite like Seira. She calls those who let themselves get possessed weak, but at the same time she's still uncomfortable with killing them. Alas, it's the only thing she can do.

edited 1st Aug '13 3:19:48 AM by fillerdude


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