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Edited by Mrph1 on Dec 1st 2023 at 6:51:29 PM
Nice to see some good news.
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Wait, the country famous for it's Ladyboys didn't have Same Sex Marriage legalized until now?
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No one in that area did except Taiwan. They all have civil law systems, which means that the courts can't allow it to happen if the government won't let it.
Not Three Laws compliant.
That's quite common for the region, being trans is more accepted then being gay.
Generaly its seen as less disruptive to the social order since instead of fighting the gender roles your saying you belong to the other one and adapting to it.
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Huh, now that you mention it, Iran's attitude to the matter is the same.
It even forces gay people to undergo transition.
Edited by Forenperser on Mar 27th 2024 at 10:07:39 AM
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And in the Middle East, Iran's had legal recognition for trans folk and state support for medical transition since the 1980s.
It's still handled pretty badly, but it's seen as much less problematic in Iranian society than being non-straight.
Which creates a whole set of other problems, as you can imagine.
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Edited by Mrph1 on Mar 27th 2024 at 9:12:30 AM
If memory serves, Bolivia enacted one of the more progressive transgender-related laws in South America, while gay rights took a bit longer and hate crimes are still a problem.
I think these examples go to show that in many places, not all types of LGBT+ are treated the same. Lots of people support one letter (at least to a point - Iran is not that transgender friendly last I checked) but not the other.
(I've cribbed the Iran example for my own storytelling - in my setting, conservatives have given their assent to let people pick their gender when they feel comfortable to do so, but the only concession to gay rights is that male homosexuality is legal and that's it.)
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Re: Thailand legalizing same sex marriage
Excellent!
Edited by TheDarkMantis on Mar 27th 2024 at 6:17:53 PM
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