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Savoie Since: Mar, 2010
#26: Apr 7th 2013 at 10:19:00 PM

[up] Didn't he do that one already?

(On a semi-serious note, "Starship Troopers" can pretty much just be read as "Robert A Heinlein" up there.)

MarquisDev LOVE WINS from somewhere in the West Since: Aug, 2011
LOVE WINS
#27: Apr 8th 2013 at 2:54:14 AM

wild mass guess I am betting the main character will be the one to cause Earth becoming abandoned... or he will be forced to do so to make sure the future he came from occurs

edited 8th Apr '13 2:59:01 AM by MarquisDev

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Hylarn (Don’t ask) Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#28: Apr 8th 2013 at 3:01:14 AM

This hasn't been revealed in-show yet, but Earth is flooded. So if he did travel back in time he did so to a point that's still far in our future and honestly that'd be pretty weird from a narrative perspective

Tenzen12 Red Lagoon Since: Jul, 2011
Red Lagoon
#29: Apr 8th 2013 at 4:12:28 AM

[up][up]I am pretty sure he didn't travel to the past.

Deadbeatloser22 from Disappeared by Space Magic (Great Old One) Relationship Status: Tsundere'ing
#30: Apr 8th 2013 at 5:57:55 AM

The AI made a brief reference to "space-time coordinates", so it's possible.

"Yup. That tasted purple."
fillerdude from Inside Since: Jul, 2010 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#31: Apr 8th 2013 at 6:12:09 AM

Episode 1: Loved it. Gorgeous visuals, all that sci fi and mecha stuff, and the story's got a nice flow goin'. I already adore Chamber.

MyssaRei Since: Feb, 2010
#32: Apr 8th 2013 at 9:22:01 AM

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Given the sheer distances where they could have traveled, obviously you'd take into consideration time as well, ESPECIALLY when we're talking about literal light years of travel between two points. And take note, this is before the six months he's spent in stasis is taken into consideration. Depending on how far away from the front Earth is, well, from where Ledo's standing the war might have already been won or lost.

UltimatelySubjective Conceptually Frameworked from Once, not long ago Since: Jun, 2011
Conceptually Frameworked
#33: Apr 8th 2013 at 9:33:18 AM

This show isn't bad. Quite interesting actually, seems like it might be more than just Mecha. And yep, the AI is a great character. It's quite adventurous so far.

[up] Indeed. If we take into account that relativistic effects may have messed with the internal clock, it may not be a matter of "where have we ended up in time?" but more "how much time has passed according to the place we left?"

"Nullius addictus iurare in verba magistri, quo me cumque rapit tempestas, deferor hospes."
Clarste One Winged Egret Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
One Winged Egret
#34: Apr 8th 2013 at 9:40:26 AM

Wormholes generally ignore relativistic effects. The entire point of them in most SF stories is to completely bypass the speed of light and any considerations that causes. Not that it really makes a huge difference anyway, given the whole "eternal war" feeling his society had going for it.

UltimatelySubjective Conceptually Frameworked from Once, not long ago Since: Jun, 2011
Conceptually Frameworked
#35: Apr 8th 2013 at 9:46:37 AM

Well he could have fell really fast... Past some really dense stuff... Okay probably not off by too much. But still, synchronising clocks over such a large distance would be a problem.

Well yeah. Wormholes made time travel possible too as I recall. Though anything's possible if you mess with them in fiction.

"Nullius addictus iurare in verba magistri, quo me cumque rapit tempestas, deferor hospes."
Zendervai Visiting from the Hoag Galaxy from St. Catharines Since: Oct, 2009 Relationship Status: Wishing you were here
Visiting from the Hoag Galaxy
#36: Apr 8th 2013 at 10:07:37 AM

In this case, the wormhole was clearly artificial because of that structure surrounding it. Makes you wonder who built it, because the system was occupied by those aliens. Anyway, we don't know what it is capable of, simply because it was, at the very least, stabilized.

Not Three Laws compliant.
Izaak Since: Apr, 2009
#37: Apr 8th 2013 at 4:29:18 PM

It was clearly implied that the Alliance built it, in complete secrecy, to facilitate their surprise attack.

Thorn14 Gunpla is amazing! Since: Aug, 2010
Gunpla is amazing!
#38: Apr 8th 2013 at 8:58:26 PM

I enjoyed it, knowing little about Urabutcher other than his name and the stuff her worked on (which I didn't like) but I see no reason why I should dislike the show for that alone.

Chamber was cool.

Silentedge89 Optimistic Cynic Since: Apr, 2012
Optimistic Cynic
#39: Apr 9th 2013 at 5:55:35 AM

I'm going to follow this thread closely and wait and see if Gen can keep the depressing and retarded grimdark out of this before picking it up.

Demongodofchaos2 Face me now, Bitch! from Eldritch Nightmareland Since: Jul, 2010 Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
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#40: Apr 9th 2013 at 6:07:14 AM

Second episode is fun.

However, apparently, earth defrosted somehow, and Red didn't travel in time.....

[up][up] The Hideazu are basically Space Monsters, Heh.

edited 9th Apr '13 6:14:28 AM by Demongodofchaos2

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Tenzen12 Red Lagoon Since: Jul, 2011
Red Lagoon
#41: Apr 9th 2013 at 2:09:40 PM

I have feeling Red might not be welcomed as he though after this "Heroic deed".

Thorn14 Gunpla is amazing! Since: Aug, 2010
Gunpla is amazing!
#42: Apr 9th 2013 at 3:32:55 PM

I mean I hope there is conflict like any mecha, but yeah I hope that Urobutcher's Signature Style is held off on here "HAHA EVERYONE IS HAPPY NOW THEY DIE"

edited 9th Apr '13 3:33:10 PM by Thorn14

Ruise Nyanpasu~ from your subconscious Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: It's not my fault I'm not popular!
Nyanpasu~
#43: Apr 9th 2013 at 4:39:31 PM

This is really good! Crazy awesome animation, an intriguing plot, non-graphic shiny violence and I really, really like Chamber. Only problem is, it's rather lacking in the fun department.

I just want Red and Chamber to be friends with everyone. You know, before everyone dies horribly because Gen Urobuchi. Just as long as the fun times happen first. [up]Yes.

There's no way Red and Chamber traveled back in time. The world was already frozen, many humans fled, some remained on Earth and survived somehow, then it defrosted. This was stated. Timespace affects the rate at which time passes, not the direction. Of course there is every possibility that he is in another dimension from his own.

edited 9th Apr '13 4:42:46 PM by Ruise

Loves feel-good animation a whole lot.
Savoie Since: Mar, 2010
#44: Apr 9th 2013 at 6:10:58 PM

What groups are subbing this? The version I watched was apparently subbed and encoded by a tag-team duo of chimpanzees.

Ruthek from Someplace Rainy Since: Dec, 2009
#45: Apr 9th 2013 at 6:20:52 PM

I believe UTW-Vivid did the first episode. The second one was done (very kindly, I say) by one person who's never subbed before and isn't a native english speaker, hence the lowered quality of the translation and encoding.

This is officially my favorite show of the season. Everything about it is hitting all the right notes with me, and I can't wait to watch more. If this follows the path of a normal Urobuchi series I will be severely disappointed. But, I have faith that he will keep his word on this being a different kind of story from his usual stuff, and failing that, that Murata will keep him check.

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Izaak Since: Apr, 2009
#47: Apr 9th 2013 at 8:00:18 PM

[up]The second one is an .ass file for the Blu-Ray release of the first 2 episodes.

[up][up][up][up][up][up]@Tenzen: the thing is, Led isn't actually trying to do a "heroic deed". He was doing it to gain leverage. He is far more pragmatic and isn't idealistic as you might think.

Tenzen12 Red Lagoon Since: Jul, 2011
Red Lagoon
#48: Apr 9th 2013 at 8:32:41 PM

And I am not as naive as you might think. What I wanted say was he did it earn some points (or leverage as you said) by helping them (That's why I put phrase heroic deed in quotation marks, which I belive is often used to emphasize irony), but his efort might be rather contraproductive instead. He might be kicked out of Gargantia and that in better case.

...Actualy I can't see ANYONE to be so naive to actualy think that way about Red.

edited 9th Apr '13 8:44:42 PM by Tenzen12

Savoie Since: Mar, 2010
#49: Apr 9th 2013 at 8:54:41 PM

After he wrecked a pirate fleet in seconds, I think they're going to think twice before giving him the boot. Or antagonizing him at all, for that matter.

Clarste One Winged Egret Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
One Winged Egret
#50: Apr 9th 2013 at 9:00:38 PM

I dunno, fear can make people do crazy things. While they were cautious around him before, they may decide that he's too much of a risk to merely "hope" he doesn't attack them.


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