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DreamCord Mysterious Stranger from Somewhere in California Since: Jun, 2015 Relationship Status: Married to the music
Mysterious Stranger
#1876: Dec 7th 2018 at 8:06:31 PM

Hi.

American here.

I've heard of Pauline Hanson, and I'm wondering how she's viewed by the country.

Hey.
eagleoftheninth In the name of being honest from the Street without Joy Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: With my statistically significant other
In the name of being honest
#1877: Dec 7th 2018 at 8:29:36 PM

Through a fake burqa, mostly.

I guess that in US terms she's kind of a crazier Steve King who somehow managed to get into the Senate and start her own party - she's mostly seen as a fringe nutter and nobody really respects her, but just by being around she normalises a lot of radical, xenophobic views and allows the relatively more respectable members of the federal government to utter their xenophobic views without being branded as outliers.

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DreamCord Mysterious Stranger from Somewhere in California Since: Jun, 2015 Relationship Status: Married to the music
Mysterious Stranger
DrDougsh Since: Jan, 2001
#1879: Dec 10th 2018 at 2:33:09 AM

For a guy leading a lame-duck government on borrowed time with no democratic mandate, Morrison sure does seem intent on being as much of a dick as possible in the time he does have.

KnightofLsama Since: Sep, 2010
#1880: Dec 10th 2018 at 4:26:00 AM

[up] I think the Liberal party has lost it's collective mind. Peter Dutton was seriously suggesting that Scott Morrison could carry the next election and comparing him to John Howard (who it should be pointed out ended his political career in ignominy, losing not only the election for his party, but his seat as well).

Riku1186 Since: Jan, 2015 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
#1881: Dec 14th 2018 at 3:05:41 AM

[up]Crazy has come to Canberra and they're determined to stay.

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#1882: Mar 5th 2019 at 12:24:59 AM

Teenager filmed biting chunks out of possum, as RSPCA condemns spate of attacks

Do people in Queensland just hate possums or something?

Disgusted, but not surprised
KnightofLsama Since: Sep, 2010
#1883: Mar 5th 2019 at 3:34:49 AM

[up] Some people do find them annoying because in older houses with corrugated tin rooves they can be loud when climbing around on them. But this seems more like bored, cruel teens attacking a target of opportunity.

MrMallard Since: Oct, 2010
#1884: Mar 5th 2019 at 4:58:06 AM

I love Ringtail Possums. My friend has a family of them living in a tree outside his house, and there's one that I occasionally spook on my street when I'm walking home during the night times.

I can't imagine the sort of cruel bastard who would go around taking bites out of these creatures. Like look at this shit - what kind of asshole sees this face and decides to tear a chunk of flesh off of them with their teeth?

Of course an animal's cuteness shouldn't define some arbitrary level of cruelty that's acceptable to inflict upon it, this sort of abuse is horrible regardless of whatever animal it is and whether it's adorable or Nightmare Fuel. It's just not on. But I have to wonder how some shitty person can do something like this. It's incredibly sad.

Edited by MrMallard on Mar 5th 2019 at 11:59:05 PM

eagleoftheninth In the name of being honest from the Street without Joy Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: With my statistically significant other
In the name of being honest
#1885: Mar 5th 2019 at 5:14:51 AM

I've seen teenagers kicking wild blue-tongued skinks into the dirt, so y'know, not exactly abnormal behaviour.

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eagleoftheninth In the name of being honest from the Street without Joy Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: With my statistically significant other
KnightofLsama Since: Sep, 2010
#1887: Mar 7th 2019 at 3:17:00 AM

[up] And Pauline Hanson is upset by that.

I find myself view his banning and Hanson's subsequent unhappiness with a great sense of contented equanimity.

Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#1888: Mar 7th 2019 at 8:42:14 AM

Even my limited knowledge of Australian politics tells me that if you've pissed off Hansen, you have made the right call.[tup]

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DrunkenNordmann from Exile Since: May, 2015
#1889: Mar 16th 2019 at 5:54:09 PM

Fraser Anning punches teen after being egged while speaking to media in Melbourne

Queensland senator Fraser Anning is being investigated by police after being egged while speaking at a political meeting at Moorabbin in Melbourne's south-east.

Footage of the incident shows a young man watching Senator Anning from the sidelines before he starts filming with his mobile phone, and then smashes the egg on the back of the senator's head.

In response, Senator Anning swings two punches at the young man, at least one of which connects with the young man's head.

A staffer for Senator Anning then separates the senator from the young man, while supporters of the senator tackle his attacker to the ground.

The young man was later led away by police.

A Victoria Police spokesman said officers arrested a 17-year-old boy from Hampton who was released pending further inquiries.

A fundraising page has already been set up to collect donations to cover the teenager's legal fees and to buy "more eggs".

Victoria Police said the incident is being investigated "in its entirety" including Senator Anning's actions.

'No place in the Australian Parliament'

Prime Minister Scott Morrison on Saturday announced the Coalition and Labor would pass a motion when Parliament returns next month, censuring Senator Anning for the statement he issued on Friday that linked the Christchurch mosque attacks to immigration.

"I would normally not want to give this any oxygen, but I want to absolutely and completely denounce the statements made by Senator Anning … on this horrendous terrorist attack, with issues of immigration, in his attack on Islamic faith specifically," Mr Morrison said.

Opposition Leader Bill Shorten said Senator Anning's comments were "disgusting".

"The senator in question, I do not think operates by the beat of the same drum as the rest of us," he said.

"I cannot dream what world a politician or any Australian is seeing by blaming their victims and the faces of those being murdered.

"It is disgusting and has no place in the Australian Parliament and hopefully the voters will deal with this fellow in the most effective way.

About 60 people attended the meeting in an industrial part of the suburb at which Senator Anning spoke.

Almost as many counter-protesters demonstrated outside the meeting.

Far-right agitator Neil Erikson was controlling access to the building.

Last year, Mr Erikson was convicted of inciting serious contempt against Muslims, over a mock beheading he staged in the regional Victorian city of Bendigo in 2015.

Senator Anning was widely criticised in January for flying to Melbourne at taxpayers' expense to attend another far-right protest.

He sits in the Senate as an independent after originally entering Parliament under the One Nation banner as a replacement for Malcolm Roberts, who was disqualified over his dual citizenship.

He later jumped ship from One Nation to Katter's Australian Party, but KAP dumped him from the party over concerns his views on immigration and race were too extreme.

At the last election, he collected just 19 first preference votes and conceded he has "not a lot of chance" of being re-elected to his $200,000-a-year position.

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eagleoftheninth In the name of being honest from the Street without Joy Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: With my statistically significant other
In the name of being honest
#1890: Mar 16th 2019 at 6:02:30 PM

I don't know why he's so mad. The kid was doing what he's always wanted to do: separating the whites.

Not too thrilled to find that the whole world knows who Fraser Anning is now, honestly. And repeating the "19 votes" meme isn't too helpful - he got his seat because 370,000 Queenslanders voted for the racist, xenophobic One Nation, and their guy got caught up in a dual citizenship scandal that collapsed half the government.

He later denounced One Nation for not being racist enough, because of course.

Edited by eagleoftheninth on Mar 16th 2019 at 6:18:31 AM

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HailMuffins Since: May, 2016 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
#1891: Mar 16th 2019 at 6:53:10 PM

[up]x3 I'll assume Hansen is just one of the alt-right nutter that seem to pop up like weed nowadays and share in the joy. [tup]

Euodiachloris Since: Oct, 2010
#1892: Mar 16th 2019 at 6:56:18 PM

All I can think of is... Well, that's one lad who won't have to buy a single drink for his eighteenth. <nods in approval>

TechPriest90 Servant of the Omnissiah from Collegia Titanica, Mars, Sol System Since: Sep, 2015 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
Servant of the Omnissiah
#1893: Mar 17th 2019 at 1:14:27 AM

Frankly, making the alt-Reich look like the savage assholes they are is perfectly acceptable to me.

If I ever go to the Land Down Under, I'm going to buy that fellow who threw the eggs the biggest crate of whiskey he's ever seen in his life, I promise you.

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KnightofLsama Since: Sep, 2010
#1894: Mar 17th 2019 at 2:34:53 AM

I'll assume Hansen is just one of the alt-right nutter that seem to pop up like weed nowadays and share in the joy.

Hanson (with an "o") actually has a more complicated history than that, mostly because this is her second time in the political spotlight. She originally rose to prominence in the mid 90s and her political bugbear that time was "Asians" (in this case meaning South-East Asians, mostly Malaysians, Filipinos and Indonesians). It got her booted from the Liberal Party (which in Australia is averages out somewhere around centre-right) but it happened too late to take her name off the ballot so she actually won the seat (US tropers, think Congressional District) and wound up forming her own political party, the original One Nation party. She didn't stand for reelection at the Federal level (the seat traditionally being a safe Labor seat... which it still remains with her election being the odd one out), but started again at the state level. But her party imploded and she herself actually spent time in jail for electoral fraud. And she went away for a while. She tried to get a Senate seat in NSW a few years ago but failed miserably and even said she was moving to England for a time but decided against it because it was "too full of immigrants".

It's ok. Take a second. Let the hypocrisy of that sink in for a while.

Anyhow due to both major parties in having major leadership issues over the last ten years and forcing a double dissolution election that makes it easier for minor parties to get Senate seats she actually managed a comeback in 2016. Though given several of her candidates, including a couple of prospective Senators, were found ineligible, including one who had a pending criminal case against him, in addition to defections and being hit in the citizenship crisis it looks like it's going to be a repeat of the last time, just playing out a bit slower.

As for Katter's Australia Party... he's very much cut from the same cloth as Hanson but appealing more to rural prejudices, while Hanson's base is distinctly more urban and suburban.

And while I'll apologise for going a bit wall of text there, you did hit a nerve. For most Tropers its something happening on the other side of the world and even for most Australian tropers its something happening elsewhere but for me it's local. At the time of her election I was living in Hanson's electorate (and would still be if the electoral boundaries hadn't been redrawn), I drive past her old fish and chip shop on a semi-regular basis (and I take great delight that it now specialises in Vietnamese-style take-away food). My mother and sister once encountered her shopping at the supermarket that we still shop at. And given my politics lie more or less in the opposite direction of hers, its something of a sore spot. (And for the record, the election where she was my local representative was before I was elegible to vote).

Silasw Since: Mar, 2011
#1895: Mar 17th 2019 at 1:00:32 PM

I’m surprised that someone jailed for election fraud is allowed to hold office, that seems like the kind of thing that should get you bared for life.

KnightofLsama Since: Sep, 2010
#1896: Mar 17th 2019 at 2:37:03 PM

[up] Just double checked and the conviction was actually overturned on appeal. It's been a while (16 years) so I didn't remember that particular wrinkle.

Khudzlin Since: Nov, 2013
#1897: Mar 18th 2019 at 12:36:39 PM

[up][up] In France, you can be disqualified from holding office for a maximum of 10 years. And I bet that anyone who runs for office after that will have their opponents dig it up.

eagleoftheninth In the name of being honest from the Street without Joy Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: With my statistically significant other
In the name of being honest
#1898: Mar 19th 2019 at 4:38:35 AM

Canberra politician uses Christchurch shootings to argue against child sex abuse reform

A Canberra politician has invoked the Christchurch shootings, in which 50 people were killed, to argue against a bill reforming child sex abuse laws.

On Tuesday afternoon Liberal MLA Giulia Jones said the bill — which would make it mandatory for Catholic priests to report child abuse disclosed in confession — was targeting people of faith.

Mrs Jones used the Christchurch attacks, in which 50 Muslim worshippers were killed during Friday prayers, to further her point.

"The good people of faith who will be drawn into this are unnecessarily being demonised," Ms Jones said.

"It is a very bad precedent at a time when we have all been reminded how the targeting of particular religious communities can have devastating consequences."

Mrs Jones said the ACT Government's move to implement the recommendation of the royal commission into child sexual abuse was alienating.

"It is divisive the way this bill … this week of all weeks, should be picking apart the detail of someone's religious practice," she said.

The Opposition agreed to vote with the Government's bill, which would require any Canberran to report suspected child sexual abuse — including what is disclosed within the confessional booths.

It allowed its members, including the Catholic MLA, to speak their conscience on the matter.

Attorney-General Gordon Ramsay said Mrs Jones' comments were out of step with the views of both her party and the community.

"Nothing can be more important than the safety of our children. To attempt to draw any parallel between this legislation and recent events is disgraceful," Mr Ramsay said.

"Nobody is above the laws of our nation, no politician, no religious institution."

Mrs Jones has been contacted for comment.

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DrunkenNordmann from Exile Since: May, 2015
#1899: Mar 19th 2019 at 4:40:01 AM

[up] ...

How does that make any sense? At all?

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#1900: Mar 19th 2019 at 5:31:37 AM

She thinks that such a reporting requirement demonizes the clergy and by extension religion in general. Very far fetched "logic" that. Sure, actions can have surprising consequences but I am not buying this without proof.

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