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ILikeRobots Aspirant Creativity Wizard from the worlds of my imagination Since: Aug, 2016 Relationship Status: You cannot grasp the true form
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#11451: Jun 3rd 2019 at 4:42:56 PM

“Class” isn’t the reason for the heels. Heels are seen as “appropriately feminine” for women and as a way of gender signification. You see high heels being shoved onto all kinds of characters in media that have absolutely no business wearing them for no logical reason other than “this character is female and must be exactly this feminine,” like freaking acrobatic space bounty hunter Samus in Zero Suit. Even the damn power suit had some out of place heels stuck on it in Other M, when the suit’s design had previously been devoid of gender signifiers.

You don’t see male action heroes being stuffed into out of place full suits to “class” them up, for example.

Plus heels originated when women in the workplace flat-out had to wear skirts since pants were forbidden, so I imagine it’s a lot of “appropriate gender roles” nostalgia for older men as well. Japan is still pretty restrictive on gender roles too.

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#11452: Jun 3rd 2019 at 5:01:27 PM

The sad part about the Samus example is that they were originally wedges that were part of the suit proper, not the stupid garish yellow things they threw on her design in Smash.

Edited by PhiSat on Jun 3rd 2019 at 6:01:42 AM

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#11453: Jun 3rd 2019 at 6:07:02 PM

I doubt it is going to go any where, but I really hope it does.....

High heels are nothing but pain and nightmares, I have no idea why they are a thing.

Speaking as a man, they always looked very uncomfortable to me and like they'd be awful to walk in.

Edited by Draghinazzo on Jun 3rd 2019 at 9:07:23 AM

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#11454: Jun 3rd 2019 at 7:01:34 PM

I've never really gotten the hang of even walking in the darn things without spraining my ankle and that's leaving out having to run to catch your bus/train/subway/public transport of your choice. If I need to look "professional" or have to be in my Sunday best, I pick flats, like ballerinas.

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#11455: Jun 3rd 2019 at 7:43:16 PM

I refuse to wear heels because they are awful to walk in. Besides, I have to stand for hours at a time usually and even flats get uncomfortable after standing for so long.

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#11456: Jun 3rd 2019 at 7:44:13 PM

I can sprint in all the Mary-Janes I own, but the cost of this is having shortened Achilles tendons. High heels - they fuck you up.

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Wispy Since: Feb, 2017
#11457: Jun 3rd 2019 at 9:00:43 PM

I have never liked high heels on women and I am a dude. Like seriously I do not understand why our society, specifically the men and some women, has obsessed over high heels for probably a century if not more now

For example, it really grinds my gears in how in many video games battle hardened women/warrior women are forced into high heels. Its impractical, annoying, and takes me out of the game. The only exception I make is with stuff like Bayonetta were the character is meant to be absurd to a degree.

Edited by Wispy on Jun 3rd 2019 at 9:01:55 AM

Bur Chaotic Neutral from Flyover Country Since: Dec, 2009 Relationship Status: Not war
#11458: Jun 4th 2019 at 4:12:15 AM

That's one of the things I like about FFXIV. Sometimes you'll run across shoes that have kitten heels (for both sexes), but 99% of footwear is flats.

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Euodiachloris Since: Oct, 2010
#11459: Jun 4th 2019 at 4:53:10 AM

It's one of my litmus tests when it comes to a character's design: dumbass heels in a situation where only an idiot would wear them? Spot the design team made of roughly 80% dudes, with no women in positions high enough to throw stupid designs out of the window. Alternatively, spot the actress-and-stunt-team-up who got nowhere when raising the issue of personal injury.

Edited by Euodiachloris on Jun 4th 2019 at 1:01:13 PM

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#11460: Jun 4th 2019 at 2:15:35 PM

Combat Stilettos is one of those tropes I'd argue is too inherently ridiculous to be seen as prescriptive in any way, but I guess that's a bit naïve of me..?

I've never really understood the appeal of high heels personally, but I'm in no position to tell others how to dress their characters. Each to their own, as always. Real life dress codes are a different matter entirely though. Japanese companies, please get your shit together.

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PhysicalStamina Since: Apr, 2012
#11461: Jun 5th 2019 at 4:43:24 PM

You know what else is fucked up about this? The people forcing women to wear heels? Would never do it themselves if asked/told to. Like as a "see how these feel" sort of way. They probably know on some level how uncomfortable they are but don't care because heels get them off.

Wispy Since: Feb, 2017
#11462: Jun 5th 2019 at 5:59:43 PM

I have worn heels myself and wasn't too bothered by them albeit I did not wear them for a very long period of time like women mostly do.

I don't like how women's fashion over history usually, enforced by men, tends to come at the expense of their health. Their is many many examples of it and heels is one of them.

Edited by Wispy on Jun 5th 2019 at 6:02:33 AM

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#11463: Jun 5th 2019 at 6:09:39 PM

I already have foot problems as a dude, so I can't imagine wearing high heels myself.

High heels are at least better then Chinese foot binding, at any rate, but not by much.

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#11464: Jun 5th 2019 at 6:20:07 PM

As someone who's never truly understood the fetishization of high heels - or a lot of fashion, really - I suspect it's a dominance thing. I mean, I know that the reason men like to see women walking around in heels is because the heels force the curves of a woman's leg into a specific shape. But that fetishization exists outside the context of women walking too.

So I think, at least on some level, that it's about power. Men know that high heels are uncomfortable, but enjoy the fact that women feel obligated to wear the heels for the men's benefit.

Which, itself, touches on a related but different issue: the male assumption that all of women's fashion choices are for the benefit of men. Women make the choice to wear the heels for a variety of reasons. Some of those reasons are even things other women may strongly disagree with; like many things, the heels mean something different to each individual woman. One woman may consider them an empowering symbol of femininity where another sees them as a patriarchal tool of oppression.

But with men, the heels boil down to one thing: do they or do they not make my boner happy? And, as with every other fashion choice that women make, men assume that women make the decision strictly along the Boner Happiness axis as well.

Edited by TobiasDrake on Jun 5th 2019 at 7:21:14 AM

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#11465: Jun 6th 2019 at 12:55:08 AM

[up][up]Old Victorian era Corsets were also pretty bad as well. They restricted your lungs really bad and actually displaced your organs. On top of that a lot of make-up over the past few centuries was also dangerous. It wasn't until very recent, in the past maybe 50 years or so that we got non-toxic make-up for women. And thats only a maybe as their is a chance there has a been few incidents with misusing something toxic in the make-up that I did not hear about.

And yeah, chinese foot binding was awful and I seriously don't understand what in the hell was the point of that. Feet fetishization seems to be a popular thing in many cultures oddly enough.

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#11466: Jun 6th 2019 at 1:02:08 AM

Foot-binding was basically a status symbol of sorts. One unfortunate side-effect of the practice was that it led to a decline in the art of dance among women in China. Since it's kind of hard to be a dancer after a lifetime of binding one's feet.

Ironically, the origins of footbinding are apparently rooted in one concubine performing a graceful dance for an emperor after binding her feet in the shape of the moon.

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Euodiachloris Since: Oct, 2010
#11467: Jun 6th 2019 at 1:20:00 AM

[up]I still find that a stupid story.

Not least because the phases of the moon bend, bulge, thin and flex. A bound foot is severely limited in how it can change position, which impacts stance and range of movement.

The only thing "graceful" about a bound dancer would be the novelty of the mincing, careful movements having to be used to outright hide how flaming difficult standard stances would become to even approximate. To start with, at least.

In moon terms: you've just stuck the foot to one phase of the full cycle. tongue

Pointes and dance? That kind of body horror I get, because pointework actually increases leverage and range, even though it knackers bones, ligaments and joints from big toe tip to the lumber region.

There are power moves you just can't manage if you're not wearing pointes; it's not just the taxing "foating across the stage".

Guys... don't always need the added oomph. Your musculature is unfair. <_<

Edited by Euodiachloris on Jun 6th 2019 at 9:27:41 AM

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
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#11468: Jun 6th 2019 at 1:24:27 AM

She apparently made it work somehow.

Yeah, it's stupid. But let's be honest — a lot of fashion trends are fucking stupid.

Still don't get how things like fedoras and man-buns became vogue.

Edited by M84 on Jun 6th 2019 at 4:25:42 PM

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Euodiachloris Since: Oct, 2010
#11469: Jun 6th 2019 at 1:44:56 AM

Well, if it makes you feel any better, I visited a museum in Dublin a year and a bit ago which had a display of reconstructed bog mummies — in short, how they'd looking wearing what they were found in before they got ritually murdered and pickled by bog.

A lot of the guys had hairstyles that would fit right into the manbun-and-carefully-trimmed crowd these days with no trouble. Especially that one bloke who had gone for a partial shave-and-braid thing. That pinwheel symbol he had shaved on one side of his head was either a part of his clan markings... or a really early attempt to support Celtic. tongue Also, the display didn't say, but I suspected horsehair extensions/padding. That braiding too thic for half a head.

Sure, the ritual sacrifices tend to have the most careful dos, but many of the "seem to have just got lost and suffered really bad luck" crowd also had hairstyles that, while less intricate, would cause scandal only to those with 50s sentiments and head teachers. wink

Edited by Euodiachloris on Jun 6th 2019 at 9:58:15 AM

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#11471: Aug 6th 2019 at 7:56:43 AM

So the guy had a rape list and a hit list during high school and got suspended for it but managed to more or less avoid legal trouble as an adult. Which I guess is how red flags didn't come up until it was too late.

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#11472: Aug 6th 2019 at 10:44:47 AM

Nice to know that keeping documentation on which of one's classmates a person wants to commit violent crimes against merely constitutes a suspension-worthy offense.

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#11473: Aug 6th 2019 at 11:05:19 AM

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#11474: Sep 9th 2019 at 7:00:05 AM

I don't post here often, but it seems like the most appropriate thread: Brazil registers 1 case of aggression against women each 4 minutes.

Link in Portuguese, text in full (via Google Translate):

Clothing saleswoman Talita Oliveira, 29, has undergone seven reconstructive surgeries over the past two years: two on her left ear and five on her nose. "And I'll have to do ten more on my nose," he says.

In November 2017, she was attacked by her former partner, who did not accept the end of the relationship. It was Sunday morning when the attacker broke into Talita's mother's house in Barueri (SP), where she was.

He tried to strangle her, break her neck, and tore at one of the saleswoman's ears and nose. The woman's two oldest sons, 13 and 11, saw it all. “I had a horror movie scene. I was disfigured. I slept one and woke up another. It looked like a monster, ”she says.

The Ministry of Health records that in Brazil, every four minutes, a woman is beaten by at least one man and survives. Last year, there were over 145,000 cases of violence - physical, sexual, psychological and other - in which the victims survived.

The conclusion comes from unpublished data from Sinan (Notification of Disease Information System), obtained by Folha via the Law on Access to Information. The report analyzed 1.4 million notifications received from 2014 to 2018.

Every time a woman seeks a health service, and the agent identifies that she has been a victim of violence, she is required to report the case to the health secretariat (the same is true for sexual violence, regardless of gender, and violence against children and the elderly. , among other cases). This information makes up the Violence and Accident Surveillance System (VIVA / SVS / MS).

The number does not include murdered women, as they are not subject to the same type of notification. According to the IPEA (Institute of Applied Economic Research), in 2017 there were 4,396 murders of women in the country.

There is also a high rate of underreporting, even with the legal obligation to register - which means that the number of assaults can be even higher.

In recent years, there has been a significant increase in the records of physical, psychological and sexual violence, according to the folder's database. The growth trend continued year after year.

Records of sexual violence, for example, increased by 53% in the period. In this type of aggression, 7 out of 10 victims are children and adolescents (up to 19 years old).

Collective rapes (committed by more than one male perpetrator) against women were 3,837 last year. Considering also the records of other victim profiles, including male ones, the total is 4,716, an average of 13 cases per day.

It is unclear whether there has been an increase in the number of cases of violence against women or whether these cases have been more reported because of greater awareness of gender violence in society, says sociologist Wânia Pasinato.

"In recent years, we have started to talk more specifically about collective rape, since the case of Castelo do Piauí [2015 episode of great repercussion, in which four young people were raped by five men]," he says.

"The data was there, but it was invisible, even if research in the area paid no attention to it. As we get more publicity, it gets more reported and the record gets more into the perception of professionals."

Anthropologist Tatiana Perrone, a researcher at USP's Center for Anthropology of Law, says it is difficult to pinpoint the reason for the increase, but that the growth in the number of female deaths is indicative of escalating gender violence. “There is a very concrete fact, which is the body. It does not depend on notification, ”he says.

Ipea's latest Atlas of Violence, with 2017 data, shows that the death rate of women hit a record high, reaching 4.7 murders per 100,000 inhabitants.

For prosecutor Gabriela Manssur, the increase in records of violence against women is due to the fact that women are increasingly asserting their rights: "There is a greater conflict because men do not accept freedom of behavior."

If sexual violence affects more children and adolescents, physical aggression is targeted at women aged 20-39 years (55% of cases).

In almost all cases of violence, the woman's abuser is a close person: father, stepfather, brother, son, or especially former or current husband or boyfriend. It is at home where women are most often beaten: 70% of cases occur in residence.

This was the case of Talita, the woman mentioned at the beginning of this report.

The victim and the perpetrator, his former partner, were together for about two years. The assaults began in the second year of the relationship, she said. Purple spots on the body were common.

“My mother told me to split up, that one time he was going to hurt me badly,” he says. “But when you are in the cycle of violence, it is very difficult to get out. The woman doesn't like to catch up. We get psychologically stuck. ”

For Perrone, this violence is linked to the roles that each gender occupies in society.

“Men are taught to use force and violence for conflict resolution and try to put women in certain places. There is an exercise of power and violence to control women's bodies. ”

RECORDS INDICATE DISCREPANCES AND UNDERNOTIFICATION Data from health agencies, such as Sinan, tend to be more reliable than police-powered security systems.

This is because the rate of underreporting of domestic violence and sexual violence is high, as there are cases where victims fear to report their aggressors.

Wânia Pasinato explains, however, that Ministry of Health data “face, like any other information system, the difficulty of sensitizing senior professionals about the importance of making this notification”.

The Ministry of Justice, which aggregates police information, even records twice as many rape cases as the Ministry of Health in 2018.

This happens for a number of factors. First, there are states that send data to the health care folder of care only in public hospitals, while others include care in the private network.

The executive director of the Brazilian Public Safety Forum, Samira Bueno, raises another problem. "There is some resistance from doctors, who do not want to be called to testify in cases of domestic or sexual violence, and do not sign the notification that should be compulsory," he says.

"The data helps us a lot to understand the profile of the victims, but it doesn't measure the full size of the problem."

The data raised by the report do not allow to see the income range, but studies indicate that violence against women affects the whole society, regardless of social class.

Ipea study shows that gender violence is twice as frequent when women participate in the labor market.

Today, Talita can no longer breathe through her nose. She has been depressed, lost 20 kg, has seen her children repeat a grade and cannot find a job. “Which company will hire a sick person who needs to operate every four months?”

With the help of psychological treatment, try to get back up. “My life started over from scratch. I was born again. I'm sure of that, ”he says.

The aggressor, Ricardo Willians Cazuza, is under arrest. He was convicted at first instance for the crime and appeals the court decision.

METHODOLOGY For data analysis, duplicate records were taken from combinations of identical information in the database - notification number, date of occurrence, gender, date of notification, regional health code and date of birth (the latter for the microdata of 2018).

In analyzing violence against women by men, the sex declaration of the victim and the possible perpetrator was taken into account. In the latter case, both male and female gender identification options were considered (in cases where there is more than one aggressor).

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#11475: Oct 20th 2019 at 1:24:29 PM

You know what is worse? If the woman refuses to testify or claims the offender didn't hit her during the hearing, the man can't be arrested or charged with assault.

Given that most of those occurrences are in households, most battered women call the cops to stop the beatings but don't allow their husbands/boyfriends/mates to be arrested and trialed.

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