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BadWolf21 The Fastest Man Alive Since: May, 2010
The Fastest Man Alive
#2576: Sep 24th 2018 at 5:34:07 AM

Who can say “likely?” Sony was in the desperation position going into eighth gen. The game has changed now.

Edited by BadWolf21 on Sep 24th 2018 at 7:33:46 AM

Redmess Redmess from Netherlands Since: Feb, 2014
Redmess
#2577: Sep 24th 2018 at 7:06:35 AM

I simply meant that that is a scenario that could happen.

Optimism is a duty.
Karxrida The Unknown from Eureka, the Forbidden Land Since: May, 2012 Relationship Status: I LOVE THIS DOCTOR!
The Unknown
#2578: Oct 13th 2018 at 8:01:02 PM

So there's a major virus or something going around that hard locks the console when you get a specific malicious message.

https://kotaku.com/ps4-users-are-claiming-that-malicious-messages-are-brea-1829733128

You can avoid it by changing your message settings to Friends Only or shutting them off entirely.

Edited by Karxrida on Oct 13th 2018 at 8:02:44 AM

If a tree falls in the forest and nobody remembers it, who else will you have ice cream with?
Redmess Redmess from Netherlands Since: Feb, 2014
Redmess
#2579: Oct 14th 2018 at 4:08:56 AM

Any way to fix a hard lock?

Optimism is a duty.
NesClassic Inheritor of the Wing from Flyover Country Since: Dec, 2012 Relationship Status: In another castle
Inheritor of the Wing
#2580: Oct 14th 2018 at 7:00:41 AM

Factory reset or rebuilding the database, so I hear- having your saves backed up somewhere never hurts in situations like this, just in case.

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BadWolf21 The Fastest Man Alive Since: May, 2010
The Fastest Man Alive
#2581: Oct 14th 2018 at 7:16:49 AM

The article says deleting the message through the the mobile app or logging in through the website maybalso work.

BadWolf21 The Fastest Man Alive Since: May, 2010
The Fastest Man Alive
#2582: Jan 25th 2019 at 7:15:48 AM

Sony has a page that lets you know some of your stats for 2018.

Some interesting stuff, although some of it is not super accurate? It says my longest gameplay streak was 24 hours which for sure did not happen. Maybe at some point in the year something got left on by mistake. :P

My most played game last year was Bloodborne, which I apparently sunk 120 hours into.

Edited by BadWolf21 on Jan 25th 2019 at 9:16:24 AM

TargetmasterJoe Since: May, 2013
#2583: Feb 1st 2019 at 12:53:18 PM

Apparently the PlayStation 5 will have one hell of a backwards compatibility feature according to a patent.

Sony Japan has just registered a new patent that allows the retrocompatibility of the hardware with previous consoles. It is a system to be applied in a future machine, PS5, and that allows the CPU of the new console to be able to "interpret" the central unit of the previous machines. The author of the development was Mark Cerny, the architect who designed the PS4 structure, and the patent, which has been filed under number 2019-503013, briefly explains what it consists of.

The aim is to make the applications designed for the previous consoles (legacy device) run perfectly on the most powerful hardware, and is focused on eliminating the synchronization errors between the new consoles and the behavior of the previous ones (PS4, PS3, PS2 and PSX). For example, if the CPU of the new console is faster than the previous one, data could be overwritten prematurely, even if they were still being used by another component.

Thanks to the new system, PS5 would be able to imitate the behavior of the previous consoles, so that the information that arrives at the different processors is returned in response to the "calls" of the games. The processor is able to detect the needs of each application and behave as if it were the original "brain" of each machine, cheating the software. This technology does not prevent PS5 could also have additional processors to have compatibility with machines whose architecture is difficult to replicate, as in the case of PS2.

In this blog you can see the most detailed information of the patent, with the diagrams in Japanese. Yesterday we explained the SRGAN process that allows you to perform "remastering by emulation" (another of the elements that Sony has patented, and converts images in SD resolution in 4K using artificial intelligence.

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I can barely understand the technobabble, but it sounds like you can pop in any game from PlayStation 1-4, and the system will read it just fine? Or at the very least, register said game as a digital download?

Edited by TargetmasterJoe on Feb 1st 2019 at 3:54:14 PM

alekos23 𐀀𐀩𐀯𐀂𐀰𐀅𐀡𐀄 from Apparently a locked thread of my choice Since: Mar, 2013 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
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#2584: Feb 1st 2019 at 12:58:07 PM

Has anyone heard of that Dreams thing developed by the LBP team? It looks pretty neat.

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SapphireBlue from California Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#2585: Feb 1st 2019 at 12:58:11 PM

[up][up] If that’s true, then that’s fantastic.

Edited by SapphireBlue on Feb 1st 2019 at 12:58:27 PM

Karxrida The Unknown from Eureka, the Forbidden Land Since: May, 2012 Relationship Status: I LOVE THIS DOCTOR!
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#2586: Feb 1st 2019 at 12:59:42 PM

Yeah, I think it's basically saying that the console is backwards compatible with physical media from all its predecessors. That's a really good selling point.

If a tree falls in the forest and nobody remembers it, who else will you have ice cream with?
BadWolf21 The Fastest Man Alive Since: May, 2010
The Fastest Man Alive
#2587: Feb 1st 2019 at 1:00:33 PM

It’s tempting to get excited, but this doesn’t say anything about reading the discs for those systems (CD-ROM for PS1, DVD for PS2, Blu-Ray for 3 and 4), so a digital storefront is more likely. Which is less exciting, although still cool.

Edited by BadWolf21 on Feb 1st 2019 at 3:00:43 AM

Shake-Master Since: Dec, 2013
#2588: Feb 1st 2019 at 1:09:40 PM

Digital storefront stuff doesnt work that way, though. A PS 2 game you play on the PS 4 is a game that was on the PS 2 that has been altered to be compatible with the ps4. This is talking about creating a digital Ps 1, 2, 3 or 4 within the PS 5, which can naturally play any disc you put in.

Also, Dreams is fucking sweet. An old friend of mine is working on it, and i have been following it very raptly for years.

TargetmasterJoe Since: May, 2013
#2589: Feb 1st 2019 at 1:33:56 PM

Digital storefront stuff doesnt work that way, though. A PS2 game you play on the PS4 is a game that was on the PS2 that has been altered to be compatible with the ps4. This is talking about creating a digital PS 1, 2, 3 or 4 within the PS 5, which can naturally play any disc you put in.

So how would that compare with Xbox One's backwards compatibility?

Shake-Master Since: Dec, 2013
#2590: Feb 1st 2019 at 1:49:43 PM

Dunno, I've never cared enough to look into that.

ch00beh ??? from Who Knows Where Since: Jul, 2010
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#2591: Feb 2nd 2019 at 9:23:58 AM

eff i really want those patent diagrams in english. if i'm understanding correctly, this is emulation at the hardware level, which i have no idea how they're pulling off without cramming 5 different processor architectures in there.

returning the spoofing processor function information, even if it is supported, by preventing the function of the legacy application might cause timing problems when attempting to use them application uses, It is easy to solve the backward compatibility problem.

EDIT: i want all this in english. i feel like something is lost in translation because these two sentences in my mind are completely incompatible with each other. timing issues are the fucking worst.

Edited by ch00beh on Feb 2nd 2019 at 12:25:18 PM

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shigmiya64 Somebody get this freaking duck away from me! from a settlement that needs our help, General Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
Somebody get this freaking duck away from me!
#2592: Feb 2nd 2019 at 10:31:28 AM

[up]x3 The Xbox One lets you put in a compatible 360 or OG game disc and play it, but it has to install to the hard drive first and I'm not sure it doesn't just use the disc like a verification key and download the actual game from a server somewhere.

BadWolf21 The Fastest Man Alive Since: May, 2010
The Fastest Man Alive
#2593: Feb 2nd 2019 at 11:38:52 AM

By the way, because no one mentioned it, this tech is being developed by Mark Cerny, who was behind the architecture of PS 4.

aerodynamik Since: Jan, 2019
#2594: Feb 2nd 2019 at 5:11:45 PM

Just saw that news about Mark Cerny today. I'm guessing we'll get backwards compatibility with PS 4 games only.

Redmess Redmess from Netherlands Since: Feb, 2014
Redmess
#2595: Feb 3rd 2019 at 2:50:52 AM

That would be fine too, since there is a wave of PS 4 ports of older games underway.

Optimism is a duty.
VampireBuddha Calendar enthusiast from Ireland (Wise, aged troper) Relationship Status: Complex: I'm real, they are imaginary
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#2596: Feb 3rd 2019 at 12:57:13 PM

Well this is certainly encouraging. I was planning on getting a PS4 for my birthday, but now I'm going to wait and see if I should hold out for the PS5.

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qwigly Since: Mar, 2016
#2597: Feb 3rd 2019 at 1:11:40 PM

The thing does mention ps1, 2, and 3 games, so I doubt its only duplicating the Ps 4.

I know it would legally be impossible, but im wondering how it would do at duplicating, say, the architecture of the original Xbox.

BadWolf21 The Fastest Man Alive Since: May, 2010
The Fastest Man Alive
#2598: Feb 3rd 2019 at 1:18:37 PM

[up][up] PS5 is definitely at least two years away. Inwouldnmt wait.

aerodynamik Since: Jan, 2019
#2599: Feb 3rd 2019 at 3:13:51 PM

From what I saw as I was researching, there’s really no way to be sure at this point whether anything beyond PS 4 is likely to be supported. I certainly hope so, but I’m all too aware it may be wishful thinking on my part.

qwigly Since: Mar, 2016
#2600: Feb 3rd 2019 at 10:59:47 PM

If its capable of doing it, and I haven't seen anything to suggest its not, then there's no real point in limitting the functionality to just Ps 4 games. Its either going to be the entire history, or nothing.


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