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Deadlock Clock: Apr 23rd 2013 at 11:59:00 PM
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#51: Apr 20th 2013 at 12:35:17 PM

I support changing it, but I think most of the previous suggestions are better. Awesomeness Based Superpower suggests either 'a superhero who can do anything provided it is sufficiently awesome' or 'a superhero whose powers only work in the presence of awesomeness'. Either of those eliminates many of the examples, which don't seem to be centered on a particular person at all.

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#52: Apr 20th 2013 at 12:36:02 PM

The second suggestions also work well.

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#53: May 27th 2013 at 10:26:58 PM

Single prop crowner's hooked.

ladubois Since: Nov, 2011
#54: Jun 5th 2013 at 12:14:36 AM

My first thought was to have it refer to things viewed in-universe as Pure Awesome (kind of like Beyond the Impossible). Particularly when such things are (at least seen by other characters as) ridiculous. Still, I could see some of the other suggestions like That Human's "character is so awesome that their mere presence causes tangible physical effect". I think it's a little narrow, but it's better than nothing.

I also disagree with those who say it's covered by Awesomeness Is Volatile. As ...someone else mentioned... that would probably be a subtrope (at least of That Human's suggestion) where the "tangible physical effect" is specifically explosive.

Lastly, while I love having trope names having Trope Namers, I'll admit that this one can be more than a little misleading. Seconding a name change to The Power Of Awesome, or some such.

edited 5th Jun '13 12:27:09 AM by ladubois

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#55: Jun 29th 2013 at 7:53:16 AM

Calling for the redefinition.

edited 29th Jun '13 7:53:31 AM by Willbyr

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#56: Jun 29th 2013 at 3:11:48 PM

Titles crowner's hooked.

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#58: Jun 30th 2013 at 1:16:39 AM

The Power of Rock has a meandering description, but it looks like "using music as a weapon or power". The Power of Love is "using love as a weapon to defeat an enemy". So on this glance I do not see a problem.

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#59: Jun 30th 2013 at 12:49:17 PM

Both of The Power Of X tropes are about, basically, "The hero wins in the end because ey has X". This trope is not exclusive to heroes - there are as many antagonists in the examples as protagonists.

Plus this is often a natural law of the World of Badass, as frequently as it is something tied to a particular character, as discussed with regards to Awesomeness Based Superpower.

edited 30th Jun '13 1:05:13 PM by Noaqiyeum

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Mikurufan from Away Since: Nov, 2012
#61: Aug 18th 2013 at 1:06:56 PM

Only one option in green: Awesomeness Is a Force, with 9 supports and no opposition.

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#62: Sep 18th 2013 at 4:40:52 AM

Votes bump. Awesomeness Is a Force is the only name in green with 10-0 votes.

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#63: Sep 27th 2013 at 5:59:35 AM

I suggest we do the name change. Anyone disagrees?

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#65: Oct 9th 2013 at 12:51:01 PM

I do not like any of the proposed renames and do not see the point of renaming this trope to begin with. The last crowner voted to redefine the page, so all we need to do is tweak the description a little.

Edit: Even then, it is not as if the description is especially difficult to understand, nor have the examples ever been especially out of control. This whole discussion was started on the erroneous assertion that this was a duplicate of Awesomeness Is Volatile so it seems it really should have been all closed once it was established that was not the case.

edited 9th Oct '13 12:53:59 PM by Cider

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#66: Oct 10th 2013 at 7:06:09 AM

[up] You're too late to say you don't like renaming. We've had the crowner going for a while and one of the names has a great deal of support.

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SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#68: Oct 31st 2013 at 12:33:42 PM

Hmm ... I get the feeling that we need some degree of description and example cleaning before we can go ahead with the rename here.

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#69: Nov 1st 2013 at 12:04:17 PM

Never too late, unless the local dictators put it down. Otherwise, more crowners can be opened, especially if the voter are informed they were voting on false pretenses. The charge was that it was a duplicate of awesomeness is volatile but there was never anything in the trope's description to suggest that. Yet, a crowner was put forward anyway without pointing this out.

If the mods are not going to allow it, fine but otherwise no, it is not too late.

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#71: Jan 1st 2014 at 3:44:52 AM

Well, OK, I rewrote the description and did the renaming, tagging, wick- and page cleaning.

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#72: Jan 1st 2014 at 6:52:46 AM

The discussion is moved. Locking up.

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SingleProposition: PureAwesomeness
27th May '13 7:38:36 AM

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