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M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#65576: Apr 24th 2024 at 7:29:26 PM

It's a bit disturbing to note just how many ways people can potentially game the system in the Marvel verse. There are so many potential paths to godhood and beyond. The M'Kraan Crystal, the Infinity Gems, the Cosmic Cubes, the Dominionhood introduced in X-Men...

Disgusted, but not surprised
HamburgerTime The Merry Monarch of Darkness from Dark World, where we do sincerely have cookies Since: Apr, 2010 Relationship Status: I know
The Merry Monarch of Darkness
#65577: Apr 24th 2024 at 7:30:22 PM

Note that from what I understand, Death and Oblivion are morally-neutral forces of nature, not exactly pleasant but necessary. The Children of the Anti-All like Knull and Mikaboshi are a lot more straight-up malevolent, so I don't think Death and Oblivion are the same sort of being.

Edited by HamburgerTime on Apr 24th 2024 at 9:30:46 AM

The pig of Hufflepuff pulsed like a large bullfrog. Dumbledore smiled at it, and placed his hand on its head: "You are Hagrid now."
IndirectActiveTransport You Give Me Fever from Chicago Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Coming soon to theaters
You Give Me Fever
#65578: Apr 24th 2024 at 7:51:12 PM

There was one writer stuck on the idea that Mikaboshi was an infinitesimal part of Oblivion. Amatsu Mikaboshi in his chaos king upgrade was just a sliver of Oblivion.

Personally, I dislike that development. I think the gods and Marvel's abstracts should be separate entities. Separate entities that learned how to talk to one another and made some deals, but separate existences that usually do their own thing, like foxes and badgers occasionally team up to hunt rabbits, but usually have nothing to do with one another otherwise. I also dislike the idea of Oblivion being ultimate end all destruction dude but Death can be kicked off of her motorcycle by Ghost Rider, sent running in fear by Walker and forced to let people into her domain by The Stranger. If Eternity can be chained up and crushed to death by Insane Genis, Oblivion shouldn't get any reverence either.

That's why he wants you to have the money. Not so you can buy 14 Cadillacs but so you can help build up the wastes
slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: Aug, 2015
The Head of the Hydra
#65579: Apr 24th 2024 at 7:51:13 PM

This panel from the latest Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver is hilarious

https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/1000011920.jpg

So that's how long a speedster thinks

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
immortaleditor Since: Aug, 2023
#65580: Apr 24th 2024 at 7:55:24 PM

Pietro's openly talked about how part of the reason he's such a little prick is because everyone else is moving in slow motion compared to him so everything feels ridiculously and tediously dragged out.

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#65581: Apr 24th 2024 at 9:27:21 PM

The other part of it is that he’s just a prick.

Other speedsters are less cantankerous so Pietro is definitely a massive part of the problem

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M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#65582: Apr 24th 2024 at 9:35:42 PM

DC's Flash actually has similar issues, but unlike Pietro he doesn't use them as an excuse to be a jerk.

Disgusted, but not surprised
Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#65583: Apr 24th 2024 at 9:39:05 PM

What's funny about the What If where Wonder Man didn't die and he hooked up with Wanda instead of Vision is that Pietro is, if anything, more pissed off at Wonder Man dating his sister as he was at Vision. He went and rejoined Magneto and became Grim Reaper, somehow, just to try to sabotage Wanda's happiness.

Pietro hates Wanda dating anyone, he just disguised it as robophobia.

He's more chill these days but that's a low bar.

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: Aug, 2015
The Head of the Hydra
#65584: Apr 24th 2024 at 9:47:48 PM

Adorably this issue contains a pretty heartwarming moment between Vis and Pietro

https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/1000011926.jpg

https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/1000011927.jpg

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#65585: Apr 24th 2024 at 9:57:56 PM

And Pietro ain't an easy person to care for, especially considering he's not exactly always been accepting of Wanda's relationship to Vision.

And you can tell from his reaction that even he's like really? But I kinda suck![lol]

One Strip! One Strip!
immortaleditor Since: Aug, 2023
#65586: Apr 24th 2024 at 10:00:08 PM

Even Pietro knows he's a hard person to like, and he owns it. Which makes him all the more appreciative for the people who do like him, even if he doesn't like to admit it.

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#65587: Apr 24th 2024 at 10:04:52 PM

Vision is a pretty forgiving sort. The only being he truly and rightly despises is Ultron.

Disgusted, but not surprised
Blueace Surrounded by weirdoes from The End Of the World Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Surrounded by weirdoes
#65588: Apr 24th 2024 at 10:05:57 PM

Most sentient beings do. Even the ones he creates. Or especially those.

Wake me up at your own risk.
slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: Aug, 2015
The Head of the Hydra
#65589: Apr 24th 2024 at 10:06:31 PM

You can tell Pietro just pushes people away because he feels he doesn't deserve companionship, especially after all the bullshit Magneto puts him through.

He really isn't an easy guy to love.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#65590: Apr 25th 2024 at 12:05:21 AM

The way Erik treated Pietro throughout the entire time he knew him is one of the worst black spots in his character.

He has that much in common with Charles, whose poor treatment of David is also one of his worst failings.

Disgusted, but not surprised
Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#65591: Apr 25th 2024 at 12:08:46 AM

Wanda: “but in my truest true heart, the man that abused me and my brother is my only real, true father instead of the kind man that raised us both from childhood and I’m saying this in a magically enforced zone of truth so I mean it 100% percent”

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M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#65592: Apr 25th 2024 at 12:11:43 AM

Say what you will about Pietro, but at least his attitude towards Erik — mainly bitter resentment and contempt — makes more sense.

Again, kind of like David who understandably doesn't really trust his father Charles.

Edited by M84 on Apr 26th 2024 at 3:12:30 AM

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Mrph1 he/him from Mercia (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Tell me lies, tell me sweet little lies
he/him
#65593: Apr 25th 2024 at 12:51:51 AM

Now I want to read a David and Pietro scene where they bond over this stuff.

lalalei2001 Since: Oct, 2009
#65594: Apr 25th 2024 at 1:23:32 AM

There was a What If? story "What If The Avengers Had Become Pawns Of Korvac" that culminates in Korvac destroying the entire universe with the Ultimate Nullifier by thinking of "all that has been, is, and will be" and pressing the button. It was revealed Death was behind it all to win her war against Eternity, and she succeeded with the universe's destruction.

The Protomen enhanced my life.
M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#65595: Apr 25th 2024 at 1:29:31 AM

Death is sometimes portrayed as a more neutral party, but in a lot of appearances it's made very clear that she genuinely enjoys it when things die.

In the Doom 2019 miniseries for example, she helps Doom escape from Mephisto because he will become her "greatest servant". Her prediction comes true at the end when Doom uses the Ultimate Nullifier to kill an entire universe in which his counterpart became a hero and made everything better...because said counterpart swallowed his pride and worked with and befriended Reed Richards.

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lalalei2001 Since: Oct, 2009
#65596: Apr 25th 2024 at 1:39:32 AM

I wonder if she and DC's Death would get along or not.

The Protomen enhanced my life.
M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#65597: Apr 25th 2024 at 1:42:07 AM

They would not. DC's Death used to be more like that, but she grew up. Yes, Death being a Perky Goth is her maturing.

It helps that DC's Death makes a point of incarnating herself as a mortal to experience life for a day...and then dying at the end of that day upon which the incarnation is escorted by Death. It's Death's way of reminding herself of "the high cost of living" (said miniseries' title) and thus she never forgets the value of life.

Edited by M84 on Apr 25th 2024 at 4:44:37 PM

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lalalei2001 Since: Oct, 2009
#65598: Apr 25th 2024 at 2:22:54 AM

TIL of La Bandera, a really neat superhero who was sadly killed off-panel. :( https://www.cbr.com/wolverine-marvel-wasted-revolutionary-mutant-superhero-bandera/

I love how her power works!

The Protomen enhanced my life.
Mrph1 he/him from Mercia (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Tell me lies, tell me sweet little lies
he/him
#65599: Apr 25th 2024 at 3:17:06 AM

[up] And her death was part of Gruenwald wrapping up an abandoned arc in Alpha Flight, which introduced the hero killer, who was twisting time and showing each victim photos of their own death before attacking them.

I think the Captain America run retconned him into a more mundane villain who faked the photos for kicks. Either way, he never actually encountered Alpha Flight in their own book.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: Aug, 2015
The Head of the Hydra
#65600: Apr 25th 2024 at 3:41:41 AM

Jim Lew drew a new cover for the upcoming Marvel vs DC omnibus

https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/marvel_vs_dc.png

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."

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