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I was about to buy Thunderbolts #1, but Admiral Ackbar told me not to.

over in carols bookher mom is revealed to be mari-ell and was sent to earth by the empress that the kree had for some reason, and fell in love with carol's dad who already had 2 kids, and she had carol with him except her name is car-ell which means warrior in kree. so the psyche-magnitron only activated the powers carol got from her mom, except kree's don't naturally have powers but whatever they got rid of marv from carols backstory so hooray

Actually, Her Kree name means champion that said Carol's not going to start introducing herself as Car-Ell. Also, I said this elsewhere they are not removing Mar-vell from her backstory. Mar-vell still plays a part in Carol's history, if it had not been for her involvement with him she would have never been exposed to the Pshce-Megnitron which activation her powers.

Which would be the point of removing mar from her past, if she's still going to be using his name as a Legacy Character?

Marvel to release some of its classic hip-hop tribute covers as actual albums.

There was a Halloween anthology released today under the Avengers title

It wasn’t very Avengers based but it had some good stories

There was a Twilight Zone esque story where Matt Murdock got new eyes, a story where Dr Doom decides that the Fantastic Four have been replaced by aliens, a riff on John Carpenter’s the Thing that doesn’t star Ben Grimm, the Phantom of the Opera but with the Punisher, and a story where a couple kids stop by the abandoned haunted Xavier mansion

Still reading Priest's Black Panther, and I just want to note that Queen Divine Justice is one of the greatest characters in all of comic-dom. She stopped the Hulk from throwing a car at Black Panther by giving him a lecture on class inequalities, and then told him to throw a cop car at Panther instead. This is while she's supposed to be serving as a Dora Milaje.

Hulk shouting "Down-trodden by-product of Lexus!" is pretty glorious, and it's all thanks to Queen Divine Justice.

Yeah, she's pretty rad.

I've seen that one.

Yeah, that was nifty.

Double post:

Had a chance to read Issue 290 of Ann Nocenti's Daredevil run. The tail end where a recovered Matt takes on Bullseye, who's been going around in the Daredevil costume by wearing the Bullseye costume.

I'd seen it before on Scans Daily, but while that post is still there, the pictures are down.

It's a pretty surreal fight. Matt almost seems to be enjoying himself (he tricks Bullseye into saving him because the latter keeps forgetting he's not actually Daredevil and then gives a Hyuck hyuck laugh as he tosses Bullseye off a roof.

The ending is really crazy where you see speech bubbles but you don't know who's saying what.

I actually have a single comic from the Nocenti run (when Matt fights Bullet, a big fellow who similar to Kingpin, his huge but redonkulously agile for his size) which ends with the latter being released from jail despite killing a dude. I never knew until years later what a big deal her stuff was.

Hulk finally killed someone and holy fuck it was horrifying and disturbing

jesus christ how horrifying◊.

Goddamn son.

It was about time. He has that raw power, that reputation, that Banner's angst, all those people and miliary bent on stopping him... and he never left any casualty? Yes, there is No Endor Holocaust and most of his fights take place around Conveniently Empty Building, but when I realized that canon, that really strained the Willing Suspension of Disbelief beyond the breaking point. At that moment, I realized that Hulk is a complete fraud of a character. It may make sense when he's in the "Prof. Hulk" mode (as a standard superhero), but in his standard form he's a complete nonsense.

And yet, just like Reed Richards, Alternate Universe Hulk Is Awesome, when they ignore that absurd "rule" and turn him into someone who will actually kill, maim or even eat people for completely petty or selfish purposes (Maestro, Ultimate Marvel, Old Man Logan). When they do that, his "monster" reputation is justified, and he really looks like a legit threat to the hero. Take for example the most recent issues of Old Man Logan, where a time displaced Maestro invades a small town and turns everyone into his slaves: clearly the "leave Hulk alone" was not a valid option, and when they face each other Logan's victory is not guaranteed at all.

Didn't the Inhuman in Civil War 2 have a vision of the Hulk killing everybody? I guess this might be connected to that.

Inb 4 he is rewritten as a big green idiot as per status quo. :V

All I can think from that moment was that Hulk is now officially a Piller Man and just ate Clive Barker.

Also part of me don’t find that moment to be a showcase of him being a “real” monster as the victim in this situation wasn’t all that innocent to begin with. A smug unlicensed scientist hired by a secret military department to experiment on the Immortal Hulk and weaponize him who spends most of the comic mocking the fucking Hulk under the false pretense that he is safe. His death will surely show how much of a horrific monster the Hulk is and not be the usual pay evil onto evil sctick Hulk has been doing towards guys similar to him.

I mean I find what Hulk did to that one robber in the first issue of this run to be a great showcase of how much of a monster he is. Yeah the guy shoot a child, but as we follow that character he is shown to be a down on his luck family man desperately trying to get cash to provide for his family and was horrified at what he have done in that robbery. Him living with the fact that his mistake took the life of a child was a fitting punishment; Hulk coming in to taunt the already broken man and latter fuck him up to near death was just . . . evil.

No, sorry, try all you want, the Ultimate universe was still bad and sucked and it's a good thing it's dead.

But on the subject of today's comic... it just feels like way too much. So now we know that literally nothing, ever, can kill The Hulk. Chop him to bits, pull out his organs, cut his heart in half, nothing matters. He's not even vaguely humanoid anymore, he's just a horrible monstrosity.

The Power Creep could conceivably be chalked up to the still-ongoing Green Door/One Below All plot, especially since its agent (the ghost of Bruce's asshole dad) has managed to jump into the Hulk and is lying in wait in his and Bruce's psyches (Bruce even says at the end of the issue that he can hear his father laughing over the Hulk crossing the line).

I should read the new Hulk comic.

It’s not like the tension comes from whether anything can kill him. Rather, it comes from what an immortal monster like him can do.

Ultimate Marvel are the best comic books of all time, but that's not the point. We are talking about Hulk, and my point is that for Hulk to work, he has to be actually dangerous. If he's just a misunderstood Hero with Bad Publicity, he does not work. We already have Spider-Man and the X-Men for that. Banner may still angst, but it's not the same "everybody thinks that I'm a monster" and "I am a monster".

The only decent Ultimate Marvel comic was Spidey, that's it. No more cannibal rapist Hulk is a good thing in my book.

Though if ya make the Hulk actually dangerous then it completly justifies Ross' single-minded hunt of the guy.

Edited by slimcoder on Nov 8th 2018 at 3:42:30 AM

Yeah that's how I feel too. There's a reason Hulk's catch phrase is "Leave Hulk alone!"

The whole point of The Hulk is that when left to his own devices everything is fine, it's when other people start trying to fight him that things go wrong.

Also yeah Ultimate Marvel is not the best. It had some good moments but when taken as a whole it wasn't great.