The Latin America thread (VE, BR, AR, CU, MX...)

Found out that Bukele attended CPAC in the US with the likes of Truss.

Wondering if that can be (technically) a sign of political interference.

About 3700 inmates escaped in Haiti after gangs stormed a prison in Port-au-Prince.

Now THAT will suck.

It's total state failure at this point. The government doesn't even have a handle on the capital. Something needs to be done.

How's that Kenyan security mission coming along?

Still blocked by their supreme court, last I heard.

Yeah the high court ruled it unconstitutional, so it doesn't look like it'll be happening.

Update: it's getting really bad really fast. A state of emergency has been declared. An alliance of gangs launched an attack on the Port-au-Prince airport; they were repelled, but this is a level of organization and cooperation that's nearly unheard of for Haitian gangs, and there's suspicion that drug trafficker-cum-revolutionary Guy Philippe may be trying to launch another coup attempt.

https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=16258340670A59428300&page=2#comment-42

Haiti is in the Carribean, so a thread is here.

Is Haiti even latin (probably yes, as they speak French)? But then, Canada....

Edited by Smeagol17 on Mar 5th 2024 at 9:10:38 PM

Every definition of Latin America I've seen includes Haiti.

The reason why Canada is not considered part of Latin America is because the British/Anglophone aspect of its culture is the most important in general.

Also because by cultural juggenut they have in the south means when people hear north america, it almost always means US. to the point the idea of mexico as part of north america is weird

Is the United States a Latin American country?

...Is that rhetorical or not?

Either way, no. Never has; never will.

I guess it's hard for people to get that Mexico is part of Latin America but not South America.

I blame that on the anglophone continental model because it splits the American continent in two for some reason.

I don't get it honestly, there's no the Europes or the Asias to justify splitting America into "the Americas".

https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=13377411320A78100100&page=200#comment-4984

If y'all like to discuss what the f is going on in Haiti, head here to the URL.

I’d say the geographical division bt North and South America is about the same significance as that between Asia and Africa (coincidentally, both also have a canal basically at the dividing line).

Of all the continent distinctions, the distinction bt Europe and Asia is the most geographically arbitrary.

There is some arbitrary distintions here when it come to the americas, mostly in geography but really in culture.

Like when people said north america, 9 time of 10 we said US. nobody really to call Canada part of North america or even americans, Mexico indeed are north american but they are call latino because language and culturaly they belong more here than there. Which of course create a lot of discourse around the two country.

Meanwhile south america and latino america often are use as the same and when it come to haiti...is part of latin america, but we rarely can give much of a damn about it, mostly by the simple fact it just sorta stand there and since it speak a version of french, we mostly just forget about it.

DW news on foreign volunteers in the Ukrainian military. Among those include Colombians.

Sometimes is like to say... let´s define how many Americas we have...

But Latin America is everything in the continent that speak Spanish, French, and Portuguese (this excludes US - officially, while practically, several places would be part of Latin America -, Canada, Belize and Guyana), so Haiti is in the equation.

By example, we have also Spanish America (Hispanoamerica) - that covers everywhere where Spanish is spoken (obviously USA will not be there as long as Spanish is not the official language), and then Iberic America (Iberoamerica) - that is like Spanish America but with Spain, Brazil and Portugal in the equation because the name means the countries of the Iberic Peninsula and the countries in America that speak their languages.

For unknowing... the definition of what Americans said about North America or America (because they think America is the USA rather than the continent that they call The Americas) was pushed so hard in popular culture that only Latin Americans know that North America ends in the border of Mexico and Guatemala, Central America is between Guatemala and Panama and South America is the rest of the stuff...

Just like thinking Asians are only in Japan, China and Korea (while the definition of Asia started in the actual Turkey) or Africans are that race..., when Africa was defined as Lybia, Egypt and those countries dominated by Roma when they defined that name...

Edited by Travsam on Mar 14th 2024 at 4:35:54 PM

• I blame that on the anglophone continental model because it splits the American continent in two for some reason.

I mean, we also literally split the continent in two.

Three, actually. North America, Central America, and South America.

No one in the US considers Central America to be a continent, just a region.