The Place for Purging Porn and Pedo-Pandering (AKA P5 flag evaluations)

Zapped.

Alrighty, what should we know about Words Worth?

All I know is that it's an old visual novel which apparently got an anime or OVA. It's quite possible that it was a hentai adaptation or whatever you want to call it that just focused entirely on the sex. I do recognize the company that made it, though the only work of theirs I know is YU-NO. Which was neither porn nor pedo pandering.

I think this was just a case of being on a bad index, though unlike FSN it at least merited a place there if it was based on the anime, which I assume was probably pretty pornographic.

Edit: The character page mentions more than a little rape, but not to the level of everyone's superfavorite cut VN. No evidence of pedo stuff.

edited 18th Sep '12 8:19:46 PM by Arha

It's a hentai RPG. It's doesn't appear to have a clean version. There was a hentai OVA, which as Wikipedia put it "has the same general story, but the anime cuts out several characters and changes the plot mostly to create more sex scenes."

It's VNDB page doesn't hint at any pedophilic content. A look through the CG set seems to confirm this.

The fact that's an RPG is a good sign porn-wise, but since the page was in the Anime/ namespace, it was likely more on the OVA which sounds very pornographic. Like most OVA on hentai games are, even if the game had a lot of story.

Checked a cg set. Lots of adult content, but no pedo stuff. Content wise it was... kinda weird? It had stuff like some monsters and tentacles in it, but overall despite this it was fairly non explicit compared to what I am used to. I can't seem to find this one on a search of where I'd normally find things like this so I guess to wrap it up I'd say that I see no indication that anything is wrong with the VN. Well, I guess that might be debatable since it has some rape, but nothing particularly damning.

The OVA sounds worse. Restrict examples?

edited 18th Sep '12 8:34:18 PM by Arha

It's not off the table. Can you send the CG set?

Wasn't Words Worth infamous for the "YOUR RESISTANCE ONLY MAKES MY PENIS HARDER" line?

Yes, yes it was.

Yeah, it was actually probably from the OVA.

Yeah, OVA is explicit. Though IIRC it is widely regarded as Porn with Plot.

So is anyone that is familiar with the work actually petitioning for Words Worth to be restored? I didn't see it on the restoration petitions page, there's no evidence that a page for the visual novel ever existed, and per the most recent P5 rules we are supposed to be zapping any flags that aren't provided with reasoning.

(No slight intended to anyone has posted about it since the flagging, but from what I'm reading the people in this thread know of the work, but aren't familiar with it outside of that.)

edited 19th Sep '12 9:54:09 AM by Meeble

It was cut in the Great Purge; if my understanding of things is correct, this is to make things "official". Also the game may meet our standards.

I flagged it actually since it still had sub-pages, and I don't like cutlisting those unless the work is actually voted on.

I highly suspect though, especially after looking at the sub-pages, that the page is on the anime and not the VN.

I remember we had a similar situation at one time where the VN might pass, but no one had played it and the page was on the anime, which definitely wouldn't pass. So we cut it and said we'd deal with the VN if someone who's played it wants to make a page on it.

It's seems to be the same here. It should probably just be voted to cut, cut the sub-pages, and deal with the VN if someone wants to make a page on it.

Sounds like a plan. No sense changing precedent without good reason.

Make it so.

The following links on the Words Worth anime do not present any reason to think that it is not pornography.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Words_Worth

http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/anime.php?id=1176

http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2008-02-26/canada-bans-imports-of-cool-devices-words-worth

The Words Worth OVA is Hentai, so that's hardly surprising. (Yes, I've watched it some time ago.)

I suppose we could just leave VisualNovel.Words Worth open. If someone wants to go create that page we can deal with the matter then. Until then there's no need to worry.

So... devilhead time, then.

What he said.

Added the third devil to uphold the original cut, and requested that the associated subpages be cut as well. The visual novel subpage is open to be reviewed if necessary in the future.

Finally getting around to reading Sonic High School. So far, it's... ew.

I added a note on Words Worth's discussion page about the particular case.

Okay, I finally forced my way through Sonic High School, and I've come to a decision: I'm giving it a devilhead. To make a long story short, there are sex scenes present throughout the story that involve underage characters, some of whom are, in canon, twelve, eight and six years old.

Are they aged up from canon though?