Page Restoration Petitions

Let's stick to the restoration petitions, and not discuss memes here, yes?

What do we do re: works that pander to racist audiences, eg. Mein Kampf and Turner Diaries?

I really don't feel there ought to be pages on things like that. They're virtually impossible to trope from a neutral standpoint and when they are troped from a neutral standpoint they come out sounding weirdly positive.

Or are we concerned solely with technical indecency here.

I think the P5 is only dealing with sex-related stuff, mostly porn or pedophilia, not racism or anything like that.

Racist pandering is not something we're trying to get rid of.

Just pedophile-pandering and something that is just porn. Or is mostly porn.

Noted.

Yes, the racist stuff doesn't get anyone in trouble with google.

If you find the articles offensive, you could try bringing them up in other places, such as discussion pages, Ask The Tropers or Trope Repair Shop, but P5 is only dealing with porn and pedo stuff.

I'm not about to try to affect major changes in site policy, but thank you for your concern.

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edited 3rd Aug '12 4:37:21 PM by Risetteer

Unless you know of us hosting racist-pandering pedophilia or something.

I'd argue that being a racist is worse than being a porn-watching-person, but that's neither here nor there.

edited 4th Aug '12 6:31:49 PM by HamburgerTime

Stay on topic, please.

Sorry.

Rebuttal on Lisa Is Pregnant: From what I understand, this was cut because the tropers thought they were under 16. In all fairness, there is a definite time skip in the fic that the author made clear in later chapters. Although their exact ages still technically weren't specified, the author wrote in the obvious time gap (among other plot elements) in direct response to Chapter 1's reviews, so I'd say this means that they barely make even here and the fic ultimately isn't disqualified for its page.

I wasn't on the panel when it was cut, so I never read it. It lists things as "pedo-incest-porn". There's nothing listed in Post-Links, so I have to ask: "Is it primarily intended to titillate?" (incest is irrelevant to our guidelines)

Also: You say there is a timeskip in later chapters. Is there sexual content before the timeskip?

edited 5th Aug '12 7:14:23 PM by tdgoodrich1

You can read the fic here. It's really short and shouldn't take long.

So three chapters, none of which have an apparent timeskip of any significant amount. Also nothing to indicate that Bart and Lisa are old enough for pedophilia to not be an issue. Petition for re-review declined.

Also, if I could, I would decline the petition on grounds of abuse of the English language, which regrettably does not factor into out decision process.

That's more or less what I gathered. With writing ability on par with an alcoholic chimpanzee, it was essentially a guess though.

edited 5th Aug '12 7:28:19 PM by tdgoodrich1

Well the time thing from what I can find it that people said to the author that Lisa is too young to get pregnant, so in the 3rd chapter the author says that they're older and Lisa can get pregnant and Maggie can talk.

There's no timeskip, it's more a retcon as to when the whole fic takes place.

Also, 'able to get pregnant' and 'consenting adult' are concepts that overlap, but are not synonymous. Twelve-year-olds can get pregnant.

Hell, there was once a five-year-old girl that got pregnant.

Anyway, if there are any reasons why we should restore Hen, I would like to hear 'em.

I checked over the links stockpiled for it. It's another ecchi manga. tvgoodrich's review indicated that it wasn't that bad. He gave it a restore and possible clean verdict.

edited 10th Aug '12 10:18:36 AM by Arha

Re: Hen:

My take: restore, clean. Note that this was based on the second Hen manga as I was unable to locate the first.

IIRC, Meeble voted devil on this one. He will have to elaborate, as I can't find the specific post.

Apparently Arha is a ninja.

edited 10th Aug '12 10:19:14 AM by tdgoodrich1

He said that someone got raped by a prepubescent kid there.

I don't recall seeing any prepubescent kids at all, let alone one raping someone. Might have been in the first Hen manga. If so, we may want to consider cutting out references to the first and leaving the second.

Did you read the whole manga? Someone said that said scene is something of Big-Lipped Alligator Moment, so if it was in the second manga, you wouldn't know by just reading the beginning.

Of course, it could be in the first manga instead.