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Xtifr World's Toughest Milkman Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
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#1551: Jun 13th 2012 at 3:23:10 PM

So Warner Brothers, Paramount, Sony and Universal all got into a bidding war for the rights to make...a porno film? Still seems implausible to me.

Speaking words of fandom: let it squee, let it squee.
Hydronix I'm an Irene! from TV Tropes Since: Apr, 2010
I'm an Irene!
#1553: Jun 13th 2012 at 3:28:45 PM

Porn and sex sells. Any company can do that.

Nintendo has their Love Hotels, after all. It shouldn't be that unusual, really.

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Jordan Azor Ahai from Westeros Since: Jan, 2001
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shimaspawn from Here and Now Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: In your bunk
#1556: Jun 13th 2012 at 3:44:54 PM

Not really. Any "plot" in the part I read was just set up for more sex. As for why everyone wants rights to it, because it's really popular porn. I have no idea how they'd turn it into anything even R rated without a lot of rewriting.

Reality is that, which when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. -Philip K. Dick
Hydronix I'm an Irene! from TV Tropes Since: Apr, 2010
I'm an Irene!
Xtifr World's Toughest Milkman Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
World's Toughest Milkman
#1558: Jun 13th 2012 at 3:50:00 PM

Sex sells, yes, but porn rarely sells like this book has. BSDM porn, even less so. I'm not denying the possibility that it really is porn. I'm just saying that the reviews seem to suggest there's more to it than that, and the sales figures seem to suggest there's more to it than that.

Furthermore, if the studios didn't think people (the huge, huge fanbase) were interested in the story, why would they bother making a bleached underpants version? Would anyone be interested in a bleached underpants version of Deep Throat or Debbie Does Dallas? I suppose it's possible that they think the name and a fleshing out of the excuse plot (if that's what it is) will be enough to guarantee big box office, but it seems risky, and studios are notoriously risk-averse these days.

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Hydronix I'm an Irene! from TV Tropes Since: Apr, 2010
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#1559: Jun 13th 2012 at 4:01:49 PM

Understood.

But my earlier question still needs an answer. smile

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KuroBaraHime ☆♥☆ Since: Jan, 2011
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#1560: Jun 13th 2012 at 4:02:27 PM

Whether it is or not, it's not a good sign when even the Wikipedia page makes it sound like porn.

And in my opinion, most Hollywood adaptations are generally more about name recognition, rather than what the source material really is.

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Jordan Azor Ahai from Westeros Since: Jan, 2001
Azor Ahai
#1562: Jun 13th 2012 at 4:12:56 PM

Hmm, the description on The Other Wiki seems worse than I remembered. It does occur to me that I've never seen any reviews describe any plot elements other than BDSM, and while based on Twilight, it doesn't seem to have any supernatural elements, so...

So basically, not sure if it's possible to defend the plot any. I guess I don't see any harm with keeping it and locking the page. It's not like anyone would come down on us for having a page on it.

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shimaspawn from Here and Now Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: In your bunk
#1563: Jun 13th 2012 at 4:23:03 PM

Porn rarely sells like this has, which makes it all the more astounding to me. I think it's the fact that it's socially acceptable porn which is something that there isn't much of for women at the moment. It's the idea that if everyone is reading this porn novel, I can read this porn novel. It's basically a lot of people suddenly exploiting a loophole in "Women aren't allowed to consume porn."

Reality is that, which when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. -Philip K. Dick
emeriin Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: She's holding a very large knife
#1564: Jun 13th 2012 at 4:32:12 PM

[up] Off-topic, but I just find it funny that most of twenty-something women I know are like "... the stuff in my kink meme is better written than this".

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GraySloth Since: Feb, 2012 Relationship Status: Robosexual
#1565: Jun 13th 2012 at 4:34:18 PM

Edited by GraySloth on Jan 26th 2024 at 1:22:20 AM

shimaspawn from Here and Now Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: In your bunk
#1566: Jun 13th 2012 at 4:37:19 PM

Also the reaction of most women I know, but the women I know are mostly gamers and geeks and not average women. Also, it tends to be women in their 40's who are buying the book. Not women in their 20's.

Reality is that, which when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. -Philip K. Dick
Hydronix I'm an Irene! from TV Tropes Since: Apr, 2010
I'm an Irene!
#1567: Jun 13th 2012 at 4:43:06 PM

Okay, the book is bought a lot. But that's ultimately irrelevant anyway. It's porn, correct?

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GraySloth Since: Feb, 2012 Relationship Status: Robosexual
#1568: Jun 13th 2012 at 4:44:44 PM

Edited by GraySloth on Jan 26th 2024 at 1:22:35 AM

Jordan Azor Ahai from Westeros Since: Jan, 2001
Azor Ahai
#1569: Jun 13th 2012 at 4:57:15 PM

"four-year-old woman"

We are not okay with that. tongue

Seriously though. I agree, which is why my assumption (possibly incorrect) is that it was porn in the sense of "trashy romance novel sex scenes".

edited 13th Jun '12 5:03:06 PM by Jordan

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GraySloth Since: Feb, 2012 Relationship Status: Robosexual
#1570: Jun 13th 2012 at 5:09:37 PM

Edited by GraySloth on Jan 26th 2024 at 1:22:45 AM

Nocturna Since: May, 2011
#1571: Jun 13th 2012 at 5:37:48 PM

I can also read it and provide an opinion, if people think additional opinion is needed. It looks like I can get it in e-book form from my local library; otherwise you'd have to wait a bit because the hold list is huge.

GraySloth Since: Feb, 2012 Relationship Status: Robosexual
#1572: Jun 13th 2012 at 6:33:42 PM

Edited by GraySloth on Jan 26th 2024 at 1:23:00 AM

MrAHR Ahr river from ಠ_ಠ Since: Oct, 2010 Relationship Status: A cockroach, nothing can kill it.
Ahr river
#1573: Jun 13th 2012 at 6:42:26 PM

It's porn. It's porn I approve of because despite being badly written, it doesn't fall into certain bad stereotypes while still being slightly feminist, but that doesn't mean it should be put on TV Tropes.

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GraySloth Since: Feb, 2012 Relationship Status: Robosexual
#1574: Jun 13th 2012 at 6:53:43 PM

Edited by GraySloth on Jan 26th 2024 at 1:23:13 AM

Arha Since: Jan, 2010
#1575: Jun 13th 2012 at 7:10:46 PM

Perhaps it would help to see the actual material that was on the page? I think at least part of the reason we don't trope porn is because it lacks anything to talk about apart from the creepy gushing. If there's a suitably high amount of that perhaps the page would be salvageable in some form or another.


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