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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: Aug, 2015
The Head of the Hydra
#69476: Jun 15th 2019 at 8:33:07 PM

[up][up][up] Because he's still the leader & the most intelligent of the group.

One bad call out of multiple good ones doesn't immediately render you incapable of planning or leading.

Edited by slimcoder on Jun 15th 2019 at 8:33:42 AM

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Enlong Court Dragon from The Underground Facility Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
Court Dragon
#69477: Jun 15th 2019 at 8:33:33 PM

Edit: someone already asked.

Edited by Enlong on Jun 15th 2019 at 11:34:10 AM

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Rojixus Token Bad Guy from Cybertron Since: Oct, 2009 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Token Bad Guy
#69478: Jun 15th 2019 at 8:34:04 PM

Seeing Sasha again just brings tears to my eyes. RIP Potato Girl. sad

RIP Akira Toriyama, taken from us far too soon.
X2X You'll never see it coming. from the Darkness Beyond Time Since: Nov, 2009 Relationship Status: Staying up all night to get lucky
You'll never see it coming.
#69479: Jun 15th 2019 at 8:34:42 PM

@ Enlong: Sure, we can go along with the in-universe "suspense" caused by a surprise Fusion, but considering a) Goku has Ultra Instinct and b) Kefla's name is not Jiren, I feel like everyone should be expecting Goku was going to get the Plot Armor in this fight.

@ Demetrios: Hey. I've been here since partway through MHA, but figured I'd wait until Super neared its end to start posting.

@ Great: It's been explained a few times before, but Super (in one of its many retcons) made it so that the Fusion Dance and Potarra Earrings operate virtually the same if the fusees are mortal. If they're gods (like Zamasu or the Kais), then the fusion is actually permanent.

Edited by X2X on Jun 15th 2019 at 11:37:08 AM

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PhysicalStamina Since: Apr, 2012
#69480: Jun 15th 2019 at 8:35:13 PM

I just can't help but feel he's in even more over his head than anyone else would be.

Also thanks to his poor judgment call a city is being destroyed.

Rojixus Token Bad Guy from Cybertron Since: Oct, 2009 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Token Bad Guy
#69481: Jun 15th 2019 at 8:37:01 PM

[up]To be fair, the city was already pretty wrecked to begin with.

RIP Akira Toriyama, taken from us far too soon.
LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#69482: Jun 15th 2019 at 8:37:19 PM

[up][up][up]Actually, it's only permanent specifically if at least one member is a Kai, not just a god.

Edited by LSBK on Jun 15th 2019 at 10:37:57 AM

Enlong Court Dragon from The Underground Facility Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
Court Dragon
#69483: Jun 15th 2019 at 8:38:22 PM

[up] though that specifically only becomes a plot point in the manga.

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PhysicalStamina Since: Apr, 2012
#69484: Jun 15th 2019 at 8:38:39 PM

What did they expect he would do?

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
mythbuster Since: Jan, 2010
#69486: Jun 15th 2019 at 8:39:58 PM

Okay, I definitely thought Eren was bigger than that.

PhysicalStamina Since: Apr, 2012
#69487: Jun 15th 2019 at 8:40:00 PM

"How dare you look on me!"

He's several stories taller than you, how can he not?

And again, what did you expect to happen?

Edited by PhysicalStamina on Jun 15th 2019 at 11:40:26 AM

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: Aug, 2015
The Head of the Hydra
#69488: Jun 15th 2019 at 8:40:31 PM

That was the only inevitable outcome there.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Prime_of_Perfection Where force fails, cunning prevails Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
Where force fails, cunning prevails
#69489: Jun 15th 2019 at 8:41:21 PM

Plus its not like the retcon that its permanent only for The Divines truly altered the actual canon. After all, Goku and Vegeta defused in Dragonball Z after becoming Vegito.

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X2X You'll never see it coming. from the Darkness Beyond Time Since: Nov, 2009 Relationship Status: Staying up all night to get lucky
You'll never see it coming.
#69490: Jun 15th 2019 at 8:41:56 PM

though that specifically only becomes a plot point in the manga.

I, too, am interested in hearing more. I think I might know what you're going to say, but I'm not entirely sure.

"Oh no, Sanji's Chronic Simprosis!" - Kou The Mad
PhysicalStamina Since: Apr, 2012
#69491: Jun 15th 2019 at 8:42:28 PM

I mean, did they not think he would take a bit more precaution after something was finally able to take him down for a bit?

So far this is just a long string of Didn't Think This Through.

Edited by PhysicalStamina on Jun 15th 2019 at 11:43:52 AM

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: Aug, 2015
The Head of the Hydra
#69492: Jun 15th 2019 at 8:43:29 PM

[up][up][up] It kinda retroactively neuters the whole drama about choosing the right partner ya wanna stay fused with forever though.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Enlong Court Dragon from The Underground Facility Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
Court Dragon
#69493: Jun 15th 2019 at 8:45:50 PM

The thing with Potara limitations comes up in the Goku Black arc in the manga.

In the anime, the fused Zamasu starts mutating and losing his immortality due to having Goku’s mortal body fused into him.

In the manga, it instead is revealed that the Potara fusion won’t be permanent for Zamasu because he murdered Gowasu and stole the Potara before he was ever actually promoted to Supreme Kai. So if they keep up the fight, his fusion will expire and they’ll be able to take him down.

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Prime_of_Perfection Where force fails, cunning prevails Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
Where force fails, cunning prevails
#69494: Jun 15th 2019 at 8:47:02 PM

@Slim I won't disagree there, though I prefer the change. That limitation rendered the potara something that would never be used again because the tradeoff is so high. I rather have it as a potential tool for storytelling than something that would either not be used again or have to always come up with some reason to get around it.

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LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#69495: Jun 15th 2019 at 8:47:54 PM

This guy screaming is Floch, by the way. Remember that.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: Aug, 2015
The Head of the Hydra
#69496: Jun 15th 2019 at 8:48:53 PM

[up][up] The problem though is we now have two Fusion techniques that are functionally identical to each other.

Then there's the issue that the Fusion Dance is actually more convenient once you learn it since you don't need a tool.

[up] Ohhhhhhhh shit.

Edited by slimcoder on Jun 15th 2019 at 8:49:56 AM

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
mythbuster Since: Jan, 2010
#69497: Jun 15th 2019 at 8:51:06 PM

Anybody else lose the signal?

Enlong Court Dragon from The Underground Facility Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
Court Dragon
#69498: Jun 15th 2019 at 8:51:30 PM

Thing with the dance is that you need time and precision to use it, which the enemy may not give you. Like Buu didn’t.

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PhysicalStamina Since: Apr, 2012
#69499: Jun 15th 2019 at 8:51:33 PM

[up][up]Not the signal, no.

Edited by PhysicalStamina on Jun 15th 2019 at 11:52:02 AM

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: Aug, 2015
The Head of the Hydra
#69500: Jun 15th 2019 at 8:52:46 PM

And it begins...... sad

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."

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