Manga/Dragon Ball

Yea, regardless on how you feel about Vic or any of the VA's; the con staff doing this knowing full well it'd spark a controversy is completely shady. And there's absolutely no way they couldn't have known this wouldn't cause a controversy, so I hope the money was worth the faith of your community.

Its not even just a matter of inviting Vic itself, but the fact they went back on their word despite their initial actions of uninviting him. Stick to your guns no matter what you do even if you did keep him despite this shit.

Edited by BlackYakuzu94 on Mar 24th 2019 at 9:43:39 AM

So they are making Mignognacon instead then...

The con "events" include a Meet and Get Creepily Touched and a Question and Disturbingly Revealing Answer Panel. Of course, harassing and abusing the con workers is not only allowed, but encouraged.

Is that for real or are you just being sarcastic?

I think that's referring to the photo and Q&A sessions and the history of them.

Yea, he's taking the piss out of everything Vic's been accused of doing.

Ya know it always bugs me how no one ever bothered to curse out Zeno before being erased.

I get quite dignity & acceptance but it also would have been cool too see one-last spiteful flipping the bird.

And what the mouse did doesn't count because he was doing an untargeted tantrum instead of focusing on Zeno specifically.

You can't do shit to Zeno.

Like at all. Knowing him, he'd probably erase you before you could even get out a single syllable.

Maybe everyone there was just conditioned to let Zen'o do whatever he wanted?

Really hope my need for clarification says more about the world we live in than it says about me.

Edited by HailMuffins on Mar 24th 2019 at 12:25:01 PM

I think that's why one act of simple defiance would have been nice.

Because Zeno has effectively robbed everyone of their agency & ability to make their own choices. Everything they do in the TOP is simply just doing whatever Zeno allows them to do under threat of annihilation. They have no choice, do the tournament, find fighters, try to win, & if you lose then accept oblivion.

There's also just how the Gods act around Zeno. Its endless kowtowing as the Destroyers effectively suck him off out of fear of punishment, his mere name immediately emasculating all these prideful beings into compliance. No one critiques Zeno or Grand Padre, its just endless praise & absolute obedience.

So like it would have been nice for someone to finally call out Zeno & the Angels for what a worthless uncaring pieces of crap they all are.

Luckily this is why fanfiction exists.

...Did I really just say that?

I dunno why D.C. Douglass of all people is against Vic, IIRC, he filmed people going to the restroom unknowingly.

Hey, there's a lot of good fanfiction, it is just harder to find!

Don't hate.

So due to the announcement of GT Goku in FighterZ and how he's a composite of kid Goku/Path to Power Goku, I realized that I'd never actually watched Path to Power despite having that on my to-do list for a while. I was interested in the idea of combining the Pilaf and RRA arcs into a single cohesive movie.

It starts off well enough with Bulma meeting Goku (interestingly she nearly hits him with her car in this version, which makes Goku come off worse for destroying her car) and them setting out for the Dragon Balls together. After encountering Yamcha they arrive at Muscle Tower, Goku clears it out and befriends Android 8, and then continue along until the RRA manages to kidnap the group sans Goku so he has to attack the RRA base to rescue him and get the last Dragon Ball. Android 8 sacrifices his life to save Goku, Bulma/Yamcha realize they don't need their wish like in canon, and Goku wishes 8 back to life.

Broadly speaking it's a nice way to make it fit a movie's structure, but there's a lot of scenes lacking proper context/weight and some of the stuff that did make it in is pretty weird.

Like, Oolong's introduction arc is cut out entirely and instead Goku encounters him in the desert immediately before being attacked by Yamcha. Oolong does his whole pretending to be strong schtick, but that's not even resolved before Yamcha cuts in. Then for the rest of the movie he's pretty pointless, especially since Puar is in the film. There's a subplot where they rely on Oolong to shapeshift into a key to escape a cell, but they could have just had Puar do it if he hadn't been included. Really odd choice to have him around.

And on the flipside, Android 8 is freed from Muscle Tower and stays in Jingle Village. He and Goku have a really cute scene where they have a snowball fight, but for him to be present at the final battle at the RRA base he just friggin flies in out of nowhere to save Goku. It's hilarious in how random and obviously forced it is, which is a shame because it takes away from his subsequent sacrifice.

The animation direction is also really weird. It's got a lot of goofiness/wackiness, which I guess is trying to emulate early DB, but then it also ups the scale of a lot of the fights in a manner reminiscent of DBZ. It can lead to some pretty jarring scenes.

Overall, it was alright I suppose. The characters looked pretty good in the late 90s artstyle, as well.

I never did watch Path to Power.

interestingly she nearly hits him with her car in this version, which makes Goku come off worse for destroying her car

I'm pretty sure that's how it was in the manga. That just makes Path to Power's version of that scene the most accurate adaptation.

Just double checked and you're right, in Chapter 1 of the manga Bulma does manage to stop before hitting Goku.

Huh. That distinction slipped my notice too. I've always remembered that scene as "Bulma hits Goku with her car, Goku flips the car in retaliation, Bulma shoots him in the face in a moment of blind panic."

Path to Power is also the only one who gets Bulma's hair right.

Supposed to be purple, see, not blue.

She stopped in time?

Didn't know that. I thought she hit him in both versions.

BTW, obligatory "Even though GODDAMN DAN DAN KOKORO HIKARE-F*CKING-TEKU!!!"

Huh, so Toei making Goku a better person apparently started from pretty much the first minute of DB? Interesting.

Edited by Larkmarn on Mar 25th 2019 at 11:29:14 AM

Why Path to Power Karrot specifically?

Purple haired Blooma, the best kind of character.

In the manga, Bulma manages to stop in time but still gets really close, scaring Goku. Goku thinks that her car is a monster trying to steal his fish, and flips it to protect his food.

Wow, I had to really re-watch the series to make sure...

Chris Sabat really does do a lot of voices in the Dubness, he's almost always talking to himself.