Manga/Dragon Ball

I think a Bonus Boss idea could be a fusion between the characters from the first two games.

It's been 3000 years…

the super final secret boos should be a fusion of broly and broly

Triple fusion between Broly, Broly, and Kale. Five-Way fusion between Movie 8 Broly, Movie 10 Broly, Movie 11 Bio-Broly, Kale, and Movie 20 Broly.

Ultra Brale, the absolute maximum.

Gavan, Let's get jiggy!

Jokes aside I’m hoping Xenoverse 3’s gameplay actually works.

It’s why I haven’t finished 2, it handles like shit.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."

What if Broly and Kale fuse?

Brole? Kaly?

Uni cat

I actually doubt that, especially given how much Toriyama seems to care about the franchise recently and how often he eskews the typical Japanese politeness to complain about the anime not adapting his work properly (e.g. Goku's "righteous hero" interpretation). Toriyama was already one of the richest men in Japan before he ever penned a single chapter of Dragon Ball. He didn't need to make it if he didn't want to. Especially since he doesn't live a particularly ostentatious life. His house for instance looks like this.

I should probably get this outta of the way, but prepare yourselves for potential spoilers from Japanese-fluent speakers, translators, and insiders around November 14.

1,000 winners of "a lottery through Weekly Jump No.47 and the December V-Jump", according to Herms, will be seeing the world premiere of the Broli Movie. (Presumingly with no subs, and the movie probably have some clean-ups for future showings in December.)

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The Tournament of Power's outline and conception comes across as the being a Toriyama/Toei (with some Toyotaro on the side) collaboration than just Toriyama alone taking an editor's suggestion with his napkin notes and handing it off to Toyotaro and Toei to screw around with. It makes this "well, this doesn't seem like it's in Toriyama-sensei's original outline" talk more confusing (and probably pointless) in the long run.

Piccolo and Gohan getting jealous because they don't have hair/the right hair is the perfect capper.

There was that Xenoverse thing where Caulifla wanted Super Saiyan Blue and Kale wanted Super Saiyan Pink/Rosé.

I don't think there's anything to suggest that.

Maybe SSB Caulifla and SSR Kale will be a thing in Heroes or Xenoverse 3 eventually. I wonder what form Kafla would become though...

Gavan, Let's get jiggy!

Super Saiyan Indigo?

My various fanfics.

Was Rosé ever explained?

Is it like a corrupted SSB?

Uni cat

It's supposed to be Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan used by a true god, instead of a mortal with the powers of a god.

rose is when a kai goes super sayain isnt it

Supposedly, Rose is what happens when a Saiyan with a divine soul/who is a god goes Super Saiyan Blue. Maybe if Vegeta became a God of Destruction, his Super Saiyan Blue would change to Super Saiyan Rose.

DBZ Broly already has Super Saiyan Indigo

Edited by Rinsankajugin on Oct 19th 2018 at 11:29:33 AM

Gavan, Let's get jiggy!

@unnoun Doing something for money is not incompatible with having artistic integrity. Toriyama's comments from BOG onwards shows that he has more integrity than he previously made out, being upset over the original anime, evolution and the Super anime.

I also don't get what your comments about the anime were supposed to mean. Kamiccolo pointed out that the anime essentially gave what-if forms to Caulifla and Kale, I'm not seeing why it would be more important for Heroes to do it? I would think given the prominence of the anime that would be even better than Heroes doing it.

Edited by Saiga on Oct 20th 2018 at 2:47:53 AM

The anime can't be a what-if because it is the main product. Although I agree that heroes and stuff aren't likely to give new forms to Caulifla and Kale because their story is currently ongoing. Like, it would be weird for Caulifla to preemptively get Super Saiyan 3 in a AU context before she gets it in the actual show, right? They can go as wild as they want with the GT characters because GT isn't coming back, which is a big reason why Pan not getting anything is so irritating.

Edited by Moth13 on Oct 19th 2018 at 12:58:11 PM

As much as you don't like it, Saiga, the Super anime is still the main product, while the Super manga is just promotional material.

Edited by PushoverMediaCritic on Oct 19th 2018 at 10:03:27 AM

I'm not entirely sure Zen'o can do much of anything besides erase stuff and be completely indestructible. It's a hell of a useful ability, but pretty poor for practical purposes. I wonder if the Super Dragonballs were made in the first place mainly to compensate for Zeno's Creative Sterility. He's basically Beerus, just even more childish and on a much bigger scope

Something I noticed is that the gods in charge for each universe follow a similar theme to the Hindu trinity. Kaioshins are Brahma, the creator. Gods of Destruction are Shiva, the destroyer. And angels, due to their ability to turn back in time, manages the destroyers and other Reality Warper traits, are Vishnu the Preserver

Edited by RJ-19-CLOVIS-93 on Oct 20th 2018 at 6:15:15 AM

I actually don't care about that, nor did I say anything about it not being the main product. That seems oddly defensive.

Kamiccolo's post should make it clear why they were comparing those exclusive forms with 'what ifs'.

My point was that Heroes is an incredibly niche side product to the anime, so it should be better that the anime is branching out with such additions out of the two options.

Makes me wonder what DBS would do after Broly if it returns.

Gavan, Let's get jiggy!

Gods of Destruction are Shiva, the destroyer.

That reminds me that, apparently, the God of Destruction of Universe 1, Iwne, from the best and most mysterious universe, apparently looks like Shiva underneath all that fur. I wouldn't be surprised if that actually meant "has a super form that looks like Shiva" and Iwne ended up being a main arc villain someday.

@Saiga Really? I thought you were the one being defensive.

Edited by PushoverMediaCritic on Oct 19th 2018 at 10:53:05 AM

So the next chapter is officially up.

Jiren's wish is to bring back his master, whose name is Gicchin (natch). Before he died, Gicchin had Jiren join the Pride Troopers because he wanted Jiren to learn how to work with others, as he felt that was Jiren's main weakness. Jiren misinterpreted this, instead thinking that Gicchin had him join the Pride Troopers because he didn't think that Jiren was strong enough to be his chosen successor. So when Gicchin was killed by a "monster", Jiren forsook personal connections to become an ultra-powerful loner, ironically doing the opposite of what Gicchin wanted in an attempt to honor (what he thought were) his wishes.

I'm convinced that Manga Jiren and Anime Jiren can't even be called the same character at this point. In the anime Jiren wants to become strong so he can prove friendship and emotion are weakness and that the strong can do whatever they want. In the manga Jiren wants to become strong to make his master proud, protect the innocent, and bring justice, as his master taught him. In the anime Jiren is a murderous psychopath who will vaporize innocent people out of spite. In the manga Jiren is a straight hero who will not even kill evildoers. In the anime Jiren fights like a caveman and can barely keep up with MUI despite his overwhelming strength, ends up knocked down and nearly eliminated, and admits defeat like a wuss right before he 'wins.' In the manga Jiren flat-out beats MUI by keeping his head and focusing to leverage his power. His victory is acknowledged by everyone else in-universe, and more importantly, he explicitly says that he won't stop fighting, that Goku and Vegeta won't beat him because his resolve is greater than their's. Did Toei run rampant with Adaptational Villainy or was there literally nothing to him other than his backstory and power level in Toriyama's outline?

Edited by Kamiccolo on Oct 20th 2018 at 1:44:37 AM