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RL_Nice Bigfoot Puncher from a computer. Since: Jul, 2009
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#1: Nov 14th 2011 at 1:35:21 PM

Let's post and discuss any we can find!

I'll start off with the Dyatlov Pass Incident.

edited 14th Nov '11 1:35:40 PM by RL_Nice

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Baff Since: Jul, 2011
#2: Nov 14th 2011 at 1:46:04 PM

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unexplained_boom

Ill search for more.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ball_lightning

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Babushka_lady

edited 14th Nov '11 1:51:11 PM by Baff

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#3: Nov 14th 2011 at 1:52:45 PM

I'm a skeptical squirrel
MyGodItsFullofStars Since: Feb, 2011
#4: Nov 14th 2011 at 2:46:07 PM

[up][up][up]When people get hypothermic, they sometimes strip because nerve signals in the body get mistaken for "hot" instead of "cold". Just solved your so-called "paranormal" incident right there.

As for the missing tongue and fractured bones, it is called "bears". They like to chew on the soft parts of the body first, including tongues.

The radiation was proven to be something some idiot put into the report after the fact, and is in fact not actually true.

edited 14th Nov '11 2:52:11 PM by MyGodItsFullofStars

lordGacek KVLFON from Kansas of Europe Since: Jan, 2001
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#5: Nov 14th 2011 at 2:51:37 PM

In fact, most of these "unexplained" mysteries get such mundane explanations... doesn't mean they don't make for badass Call Of Cthulhu adventures.

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MyGodItsFullofStars Since: Feb, 2011
#6: Nov 14th 2011 at 2:54:41 PM

[up]Sure, they are fun, but at some point you've got to grow up and accept the fact that the world is a pretty ordinary place. That doesn't mean that there is no mystery out there, just that so far all of the mysteries we have found eventually prove perfectly explainable, and that "paranormal" is simply a stupid way of describing something that we haven't figured out yet.

That being said, there are some things that, despite not being paranormal, are inexplicable:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stone_spheres_of_Costa_Rica

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antikythera_mechanism

edited 14th Nov '11 2:57:06 PM by MyGodItsFullofStars

pagad Sneering Imperialist from perfidious Albion Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
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#7: Nov 14th 2011 at 2:57:41 PM

edit: ignore, redundant

edited 14th Nov '11 2:58:15 PM by pagad

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lordGacek KVLFON from Kansas of Europe Since: Jan, 2001
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#8: Nov 14th 2011 at 3:08:44 PM

Oh, mind you, I didn't say these paranormal things are true. I doubt it's even unclear. I, however, see this thread as "share creepy stories", especially as you can get adventure ideas for Call Of Cthulhu just by reading a newspaper. Missing space probe? Mi-Go. Madman kills three? Even easier.

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USAF713 I changed accounts. from the United States Since: Sep, 2010
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#9: Nov 14th 2011 at 3:52:26 PM

@Stars,

Weren't the people at Dyatlov Pass found with their chests exploded/imploded from the inside out?

If so, I don't think bears can do that...

My personal favorite is SM UB-65, a haunted German U-Boat of World War One vintage. I remember being captivated by the story when I was little (it was in an anthology of real life ghost stories that my Fourth Grade teacher had) and it's still one of my favorites. I need to read up on it again—it's been a long time since I've read it—but I remember it was very... disturbing, somehow...

edited 14th Nov '11 3:53:02 PM by USAF713

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RL_Nice Bigfoot Puncher from a computer. Since: Jul, 2009
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#10: Nov 14th 2011 at 4:08:23 PM

[up]I don't remember reading anything about exploded/imploded chests. And I do find it somewhat suspect that a bear would eat a corpse's tongue and leave the rest of the body alone.

[up][up]Not Call Of Cthulhu, but rather my own series of adventure stories.

edited 14th Nov '11 4:18:31 PM by RL_Nice

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Katrika Since: Jul, 2009
#11: Nov 14th 2011 at 4:23:16 PM

Not just bears, man. What about small mammals or birds? Did they still have their eyes when they were found? I know in warmer climes, birds like to eat the eyes early on. I suppose it might not be worth the effort in the freezing temps up there. You're probably right that a HUNGRY bear would probably eat more than just their tongues, but if they somehow accidently antagonized a bear in their delirium, they could have been killed by the bear in self defense, and had birds eat their tongues.

edited 14th Nov '11 4:24:30 PM by Katrika

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Colonial1.1 Crazed Lawrencian from The Marvelous River City Since: Apr, 2010 Relationship Status: In season
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#12: Nov 14th 2011 at 5:59:35 PM

Anyone here know of BLOOP?

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#13: Nov 14th 2011 at 6:05:44 PM

[up]Yeah, I know of it, but I don't think I've ever seen an explanation. It's really weird, isn't it?

EDIT: So I went to look for it in Wikipedia (still no definite answer) and found out that there have been several other named sounds that remain unexplained.

Second edit: I listened to some of the sounds that have their own article (they're linked at the end of the article for BLOOP.) Really eerie shit. If I ever make a movie or a game or something else that'd include an opportunity to make use of these, I'd totally go for it if there's no copyright on these. (I'm guessing that these are free to use because they're recorded (and named) by a US government source.)

...at some point you've got to grow up and accept the fact that the world is a pretty ordinary place.

Douglas Adams left us a long list of excellent quotes from which to reach for his wisdom and insight in a futile attempt to get over his untimely demise. Among those pearls you'll find this:

The fact that we live at the bottom of a deep gravity well, on the surface of a gas covered planet going around a nuclear fireball 90 million miles away and think this to be normal is obviously some indication of how skewed our perspective tends to be.

edited 14th Nov '11 6:12:04 PM by BestOf

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Katrika Since: Jul, 2009
#14: Nov 14th 2011 at 6:15:24 PM

Technically that's very normal, as far as we know. What it ISN'T is boring.

=P

edited 14th Nov '11 6:15:33 PM by Katrika

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#15: Nov 14th 2011 at 6:19:57 PM

Exactly.

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Colonial1.1 Crazed Lawrencian from The Marvelous River City Since: Apr, 2010 Relationship Status: In season
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#16: Nov 14th 2011 at 6:20:50 PM

"Grow up" might be the wrong phrase, I think.

So, do they sound mechanical or biological?

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#17: Nov 14th 2011 at 6:27:42 PM

I'd say mechanical, all of them; but probably resulting from something natural (volcanic activity and glacial events (usually ice calving) have been among the most common proposed explanations.)

My favourite among them is Julia.

...And now I've stumbled upon something even weirder. I had completely forgotten about the quacker phenomenon of the 1960s and 70s.

Wikipedia:

During the Cold War, when Soviet ballistic missile submarines went to patrol northern seas, their crews started reporting the mysterious frog-like sounds, which soon were dubbed "quackers", from the Russian rendition of a frog noise. These sounds appeared when submarines passed certain zones in the sea and behaved as if they were emitted by some moving underwater object that failed to register on the active sonar. When the sub left their "patrol zone", the objects disappeared after emitting one final "quack".

These objects exhibited behavior not unlike some living being or manned vessel, showing obvious interest in the passing submarine, circling around it, trying to actively avoid sonar pulses, and so on. The speed of some of these objects (estimated from Doppler shift of their sound frequency) was in the range of 200 km/h, much higher than any then-known man-made vessel. Contact was attempted on several occasions, but, apart from some obvious reactions to these attempts (such as changing the pitch of the sounds or movement of the apparent sound source), nothing came of it.

...

The Soviet Academy of Sciences was invited to create a joint commission with the representatives of the Navy, as this phenomenon was identified as a potential national security risk. This commission worked for about a decade, but despite extensive investigations results remained inconclusive, and it was eventually disbanded. In the 1980s the phenomenon slowly faded, and now quackers may have disappeared completely.

None of the proposed explanations seem very likely, but the one that came closest to accounting for all the facts was that the quacker was a giant squid; so this one definitely meets the purpose of this thread.

The other two explanations were: unknown US technology (there still exists nothing that could replicate the properties of the quacker in any country's known arsenal, especially when the source of the sound wasn't detectable by active SONAR;) and UFOs, that eternal stock response to any presently unexplained phenomenon.

edited 14th Nov '11 6:45:53 PM by BestOf

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Colonial1.1 Crazed Lawrencian from The Marvelous River City Since: Apr, 2010 Relationship Status: In season
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#18: Nov 14th 2011 at 6:47:29 PM

Even BLOOP?

Quacker: Okay, that is bizarre. I'm betting some critters we've not yet discovered.

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#19: Nov 14th 2011 at 6:54:13 PM

[up]My guess would be quackers are caused by haloclines - regions where fresh and saltwater mix. Because sound waves move differently in salt and fresh water, if you weren't compensating for the possible presence of such things as freshwater geysers or sub-surface ice you'd think that the sound waves suddenly sped up or slowed down. Why do they seem to move when a submarine is nearby? Because the submarine is stirring the water around as it passes. The eventual disappearance of the haloclines (due to the constant submarine activity stirring them to the point that they simply diffused into the rest of the sea) also makes some sense.

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#20: Nov 14th 2011 at 7:08:34 PM

How much traffic would it take to mix the water enough to dissolve (not the correct word but can't think of a better one) the halocline?

'Cause I don't think submarines travel the same routes all the time, or that the routes are short - I'd expect the traffic to have been something like one sub every month or two per quacker.

edited 14th Nov '11 7:08:56 PM by BestOf

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Colonial1.1 Crazed Lawrencian from The Marvelous River City Since: Apr, 2010 Relationship Status: In season
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#21: Nov 14th 2011 at 7:58:20 PM

...Guys, you just sucked the 'magic' out of it.

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#22: Nov 14th 2011 at 8:06:40 PM

When you know what's causing it, it's even more awesome. Well, that's how it works for me, anyway.

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edited 14th Nov '11 8:07:15 PM by BestOf

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Colonial1.1 Crazed Lawrencian from The Marvelous River City Since: Apr, 2010 Relationship Status: In season
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#23: Nov 14th 2011 at 8:22:03 PM

—shrugs sheepishly—

Sorry. Not my field of study, I suppose.

Any others you can think of?

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MarkVonLewis Since: Jun, 2010
#24: Nov 14th 2011 at 8:42:12 PM

Cthulhu. Or smaller, lesser minions of Cthulhu.

Colonial1.1 Crazed Lawrencian from The Marvelous River City Since: Apr, 2010 Relationship Status: In season
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#25: Nov 14th 2011 at 9:05:34 PM

How's about all those various "Triangles"?

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