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Redmess Redmess from Netherlands Since: Feb, 2014
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#151: Feb 18th 2019 at 12:24:35 PM

You're forgetting Ducktales, which arguably wasn't in dire need of a reboot, but got a fairly succesful one anyway.

As to that fifth point... well, if there was ever a reason to do a reboot, THAT right there would be a very good one. That's exactly the kind of free playtime that today's millenials and their children are missing, especially in America. No kid these days is allowed to be bored and do things on their own anymore. A cartoon like this could help against that trend by showing the alternative.

If anything, parents these days are TOO responsible, playgrounds are TOO safe, and playtime way too structured. There's a reason there is a Free Range Parenting backlash against all this.

Edited by Redmess on Feb 18th 2019 at 9:26:29 PM

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Soble Since: Dec, 2013
#152: Feb 18th 2019 at 12:51:06 PM

Sorry, I revised that post like eight times and I'm still spell-checking.

free-range parenting

Huh.

Didn't know that was a serious thing honestly. That was just my observation of my neighborhood and cartoons in general.

Edited by Soble on Feb 18th 2019 at 1:12:47 AM

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#153: Feb 18th 2019 at 1:14:04 PM

It'd all come down to Danny Antonucci wanting it or not, and I recall he said he got pretty sick of the show by the time they finished it. That's also why he doesn't do much anymore - he released a new pilot not long ago, and if anything I'd prefer someone pick that up over having a reboot.

Oh, yes, and it got a perfectly fine finale where the main conflicts of the show were pretty much wrapped up. Why ruin that?

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#154: Feb 18th 2019 at 5:27:11 PM

All Grown Up was mediocre because it was mediocre. It changed the characters and series too much. It didn't help that Rugrats itself had a Seasonal Rot in its last few years. All Grown Up was just a less interesting version of As Told By Ginger.

Ed, Edd, 'n' Eddy has no such thing. It was good from start to finish. As long as the a sequel keeps to the source's style (and preferably has the same writer), it could turn out just fine. EENE is so grounded that you could easily write them as teens or adults without much issue.

[up][up][up] Eh... I understand the helicopter parenting of today's parents. I can't imagine letting kids outside on their own before age 12, and even that's pushing it.

However, EENE came out during this era. Such parenting was already common in 1999. EENE got around it by being in an Ambiguous Time Period.

Edited by Pichu-kun on Feb 18th 2019 at 5:30:20 AM

Redmess Redmess from Netherlands Since: Feb, 2014
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#155: Feb 19th 2019 at 3:40:45 AM

[up]Why not? It's really not THAT dangerous to play outside on your own, and it teaches children to act independently and responsibly, and to deal with danger on their own.

If you are worried about kidnappings, those are statistically VERY rare. On top of that, most kidnappings are by family members, usually one of the parents, and usually involving a divorce.

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Pichu-kun ... Since: Jan, 2001
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#156: Feb 19th 2019 at 6:46:49 AM

[up] It just seems unsafe to let preteens wander around on their own. Some people let their 8 year olds outside unsupervised and some don't. It's one of those parenting things that everyone has different feelings about, but I lean towards the "overprotective" side.

In fiction though? It's boring. Reality Is Unrealistic so no one wants to see their protagonists stay inside all day.

Redmess Redmess from Netherlands Since: Feb, 2014
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#157: Feb 19th 2019 at 8:24:09 AM

I played outside unsupervised as a preteen, as did all the other kids, and we were fine. This is perfectly normal in Europe, Asia, and Africa. The US is a bit of an anomaly in that regard.

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J79 Since: Jan, 2015
#158: Feb 19th 2019 at 2:30:52 PM

I mean, Craig of the Creek is also about kids running around without parental supervision (and takes place in the present day) so it's not THAT out of place.

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#159: Feb 19th 2019 at 2:38:05 PM

Yeah but there are actually adults there, Ed, Edd n' Eddy never shows the adults

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Eldritcho Since: Nov, 2016
#160: Feb 20th 2019 at 7:54:13 PM

The whole "helicopter parents never let their kids play outside" story is really overblown, from my experience. I still see kids playing outside all the time. No, the thing now is that most kids have access to the internet, Netflix, and social media, so there's a lot less incentive for them to go outside as much as kids used to.

Craig of the Creek I think does a good job in showing how one can combine both elements, by showing the kids using their smartphones whilst still playing outside.

If there for some reason were to be an EE&E remake, they'd have to acknowledge that smartphones and youtube exist and try to incorporate those elements in a non-obtrusive way. And since Craig is already kind of doing that, then what's really the point in bringing back EE&E other than nostalgia?

Zeromaeus Since: May, 2010
#161: Feb 20th 2019 at 11:14:47 PM

Ehhh. Ever since that one kid got hit by a car in my neighborhood, all the others just stopped coming out. It can be more than one thing that keeps kids indoors.

[up]Craig of the Creek is very different from Ed, Edd & Eddy.

Edited by Zeromaeus on Feb 20th 2019 at 2:15:26 PM

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#162: Feb 21st 2019 at 4:50:12 AM

I now want a crossover between those two shows

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Pichu-kun ... Since: Jan, 2001
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#163: Feb 21st 2019 at 11:17:29 AM

[up](x6) Plenty of previous generations ran around as kids. Heck, most helicopter parents were probably "free-range". Standards change over time.

[up][up][up] People let their kids play around outside all the time, they're just supervised.

I've heard some people argue that even The Simpsons in the 1990s was inaccurate. "Kids didn't play outside, they play video games". Fiction has some leeway room.

With Craig on the Creek, it helps that they live in a suburban. People in the suburbs are more lenient towards letting their kids out alone. All the kids having cellphones also helps in the show. EENE mainly took place in the early-to-mid 2000s, so most kids their age didn't have phones. It also has a Retro Universe vibe so I doubt they'd show cellphones anyway.

Redmess Redmess from Netherlands Since: Feb, 2014
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#164: Feb 21st 2019 at 11:24:53 AM

I get that standards have changed, it's just a question of whether they have changed in a good way, and what the consequences will be for children raised in such a way once they become adults.

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#165: Aug 10th 2019 at 2:02:52 PM

Ever see the 80's cartoon "Heathcliff And The Cadillac Cats"? The Cadillac Cats kind of remind me of Ed Edd & Eddy.

Riff-Raff is like Eddy: a short guy tough enough to get taller guys to choose him as a leader

Mongo is like Ed: big, strong, not too bright but friendly

Wordsworth is like Edd: They both have a way with words (Wordsworth through rhyming, Edd through using elaborate big words)

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Redmess Redmess from Netherlands Since: Feb, 2014
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#166: Aug 10th 2019 at 2:25:37 PM

I mostly remember Top Cat. That was a different show, I think.

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Pichu-kun ... Since: Jan, 2001
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#167: Aug 10th 2019 at 2:54:46 PM

'Fairly relevant clip now that it's August.

The show is almost twenty. It doesn't even feel fifteen yet. It's weird thinking many kids probably haven't seen an episode of the show... I've seen a lot of cartoon Youtubers do videos on the show lately. I guess it's old enough to be nostalgic for 20-somethings and 30-somethings. That gives me an idea to do videos about the fandom. I used to be heavily into it circa 2006-2008.

[up][up] Heathcliff was funnier than Garfield to me as a kid. I couldn't appreciate Garfield's more mundane humor. Heathcliff, however, is jus

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#168: Aug 10th 2019 at 7:31:11 PM

I have never seen heathcliff but I remember Ed edd n eddy.

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BigK1337 Since: Jun, 2012
#169: Aug 11th 2019 at 1:28:36 AM

[up] Honestly its for the better. Heathcliff is to Garfield, just as Filmation Ghost Busters is to Real Ghostbusters. Doesn’t help that both latters have Lorenzo Music voicing the Bill Murray characters.

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#170: Aug 11th 2019 at 8:52:57 AM

[up] Heathcliff is older than Garfield.

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#171: Aug 11th 2019 at 8:57:36 AM

I remember when this show first started and I didn't like the art style or the main characters,like it a little more now though

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#172: Aug 25th 2019 at 11:31:00 AM

In one episode, the Eds are trying to make Rolf think he's in his home country.

Johnny shows up and Eddy says he can't be there because he needs a passport. Johnny feels he's being scammed and ignores Eddy.

If Eddy had told Johnny about how they're trying to make Rolf less homesick, would Johnny have agreed to leave the fake old world village?

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MsCC93 Since: May, 2012
#174: Aug 26th 2019 at 7:30:58 AM

[up][up] No he wouldn't have. Jonny was really at his most annoying in that episode. He still wouldn't have listened.

PhysicalStamina Since: Apr, 2012
#175: Aug 28th 2019 at 5:42:05 AM

[up]That episode was him at his most annoying? Not the one where Eddy tries to make him as obnoxious as possible?


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