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Welcome to the main discussion thread for the Marvel Cinematic Universe! I'm editing this OP and pinning it to establish some basic guidelines. All of the Media Forum rules still apply.

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[Edited by Fighteer]

    Original post 
Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Fighteer on Dec 15th 2022 at 9:55:58 AM

RavenWilder Since: Apr, 2009
#123051: Nov 25th 2020 at 9:32:34 AM

It'd be simpler if Miles and Peter operated out of different cities. Like, if one's the New York Spider-Man and the other's the Chicago Spider-Man, then there wouldn't be as many circumstances where the confusion would come up.

Hodor2 Since: Jan, 2015
#123052: Nov 25th 2020 at 9:34:01 AM

@ Windleopard - Thank you for posting/sharing.

Regarding the female friend, I would really happy if that does end up being Jazinda. Just something I would like, not a theory with any support.

In terms of actresses, maybe Brenda Song, Ali Wong, or Kelly Marie Tran? Or for a different kind of Asian, Tiya Sircar?

Edit - Re Miles, I think it's perfectly fine and it's my preference for him to go by Spider-Man in and out of universe, especially because he wears a distinguishable costume.

Regrding the different cities though, that reminds me of the recentish Superior Spider-Man where Otto was in (IIRC) San Francisco and called himself Spider-Man (not surprising, given his ego), but wore the Superior costume in what he claimed in-universe was an homage.

Edited by Hodor2 on Nov 25th 2020 at 11:37:03 AM

Beatman1 Since: Feb, 2014 Relationship Status: Gone fishin'
#123053: Nov 25th 2020 at 9:34:19 AM

[up][up]I think that’s part of why they had Kaine move to Dallas for a bit.

Edited by Beatman1 on Nov 25th 2020 at 9:35:06 AM

Blueace Surrounded by weirdoes from The End Of the World Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Surrounded by weirdoes
#123054: Nov 25th 2020 at 9:34:56 AM

Sometimes, Marvel still forgets the world is bigger than New York, don't they?

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KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#123055: Nov 25th 2020 at 9:44:26 AM

According to The Illuminerdi, Jennifer Walters will face off against a female villain under the current codename Lucy. According to the description, she is a social media guru (think Kardashian) with a dark side. She is expected to play a prominent role in the series and will appear in at least five episodes.

... Screwball?

"The difference between reality and fiction is that fiction has to make sense." - Tom Clancy, paraphrasing Mark Twain.
Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#123056: Nov 25th 2020 at 9:46:39 AM

Lucy from the movie Lucy?

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Hodor2 Since: Jan, 2015
#123057: Nov 25th 2020 at 9:53:20 AM

Yeah, that description does fit Screwball, although 1) she's not a She-Hulk villain and 2) she's not really Big Bad material. I know Titana is pretty much the only major She Hulk villain, but that doesn't sound much like her

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#123058: Nov 25th 2020 at 10:29:00 AM

She-Hulk doesn't have any villains but Titania?

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TargetmasterJoe Since: May, 2013
KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#123060: Nov 25th 2020 at 10:53:07 AM

[up][up] She has a few, Titania is just by far her most prominent. That said, most of She-Hulk's rogue gallery is shared with other characters, mostly Hulk rogues or those general Marvel villains who aren't tied down to any particular character.

The only ones off the top of my head that I can think of that are primarily She-Hulk villains are Titania, Ogress and Lyra. But that's not to say that she doesn't have a healthy hero-villain relationship with some characters who also villain for other heroes as well.

Edited by KnownUnknown on Nov 25th 2020 at 10:54:14 AM

"The difference between reality and fiction is that fiction has to make sense." - Tom Clancy, paraphrasing Mark Twain.
Beatman1 Since: Feb, 2014 Relationship Status: Gone fishin'
#123061: Nov 25th 2020 at 10:53:58 AM

You'd figure this would be as good a spot for The Leader as any.

EmeraldEmperor Lies and Violence! Since: Oct, 2020
Lies and Violence!
#123062: Nov 25th 2020 at 10:57:41 AM

Who's to say we won't see him? I see Titania playing a big role, but at the same time I doubt she'd be the Big Bad.

I don't know enough about Oggress and Lyra to comment on them.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: Aug, 2015
The Head of the Hydra
#123063: Nov 25th 2020 at 1:32:53 PM

Man its a shame we can't get a crossover at the moment between She-Hulk & Daredevil.

It be cool to see them both lawyer together. Plus She-Hulk is green so she is truly an avocado at law. tongue

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KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#123065: Nov 25th 2020 at 2:47:19 PM

Given that the article is citing the already very Jossed rumors that the third Spidey flick is going to be a multiverse movie, probably not.

And then, of course, there's the fact that We Got It Covered is all over the story.

Edited by KnownUnknown on Nov 25th 2020 at 2:49:11 AM

"The difference between reality and fiction is that fiction has to make sense." - Tom Clancy, paraphrasing Mark Twain.
TargetmasterJoe Since: May, 2013
#123066: Nov 25th 2020 at 5:35:35 PM

[up][up] Agh, I debated with myself on whether to bring it up on this thread or not. I was under the impression that if they ever revisited any previously used Spider-Man villains, they would be performed by very different actors.

That impression got jossed when Jamie Foxx was announced to appear as Electro that, according to a now-deleted post on Foxx's Instagram, would not be blue, which was a defining trait of the character in ASM2 (for better or for worse). And now, there's rumblings of Molina returning as Doc Ock?

I already saw a lot of people calling "multiverse shenanigans," but what if he's just playing a rebooted MCU version of the character? Because Otto explicitly died in Spider-Man 2.

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#123068: Nov 25th 2020 at 7:54:44 PM

JLA/Avengers intensifies

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#123069: Nov 25th 2020 at 8:00:38 PM

Eh, I'd love to see Wonder Woman, Superman, and Green Lantern yell Avengers Assemble

Edited by HandsomeRob on Nov 25th 2020 at 9:00:48 AM

One Strip! One Strip!
Akirakan Since: Feb, 2015 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#123070: Nov 25th 2020 at 9:26:38 PM

And for Wasp to say "Justice League, Lambaste!".

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#123071: Nov 25th 2020 at 9:31:24 PM

She had to say something. I mean, it's not her fault the Justice League doesn't really have much of a battle cry.

One Strip! One Strip!
fredhot16 Don't want to leave but cannot pretend from Baton Rogue, Louisiana. Since: Jan, 2015 Relationship Status: Too sexy for my shirt
Don't want to leave but cannot pretend
#123072: Nov 25th 2020 at 9:52:23 PM

Silence is always an option, Rob. Better to let people think you're an idiot rather than open your mouth and confirm it.

Edited by fredhot16 on Nov 25th 2020 at 9:54:01 AM

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chasemaddigan I'm Sad Frogerson. Since: Oct, 2011
I'm Sad Frogerson.
#123073: Nov 26th 2020 at 6:39:19 AM

Silence is always an option, Rob. Better to let people think you're an idiot rather than open your mouth and confirm it.

wanderlustwarrior Role Model from Where Gods Belong Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: What's love got to do with it?
Role Model
#123074: Nov 27th 2020 at 5:23:31 PM

The only Doc Ock my life needs at this point is "Liv".

I'd say they already have a great actress lined up, but she's already going to be in the MCU as Agnes.

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Beatman1 Since: Feb, 2014 Relationship Status: Gone fishin'
#123075: Nov 27th 2020 at 5:41:03 PM

[up]People want the classic Ock, especially after seeing him used rather well in the PS 4 game. Liv is weird because there was a female Ock for a bit but she never gained momentum.


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