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Welcome to the main discussion thread for the Marvel Cinematic Universe! I'm editing this OP and pinning it to establish some basic guidelines. All of the Media Forum rules still apply.

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[Edited by Fighteer]

    Original post 
Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Fighteer on Dec 15th 2022 at 9:55:58 AM

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#109576: Sep 14th 2019 at 6:19:09 PM

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That can't happen anymore now that Spiderman is gone.

Now villains will be villains for their own reasons.

Random thought: even though I don't think it was a big deal as far as events go, I'd like to see an adaptation of Atlantis Attacks.

....though I guess they would have to leave out Spiderman's parts.sad

Edited by HandsomeRob on Sep 14th 2019 at 9:06:13 AM

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comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#109577: Sep 14th 2019 at 9:26:44 PM

[up][up][up]There was a joke I saw on Twitter today that at this rate, Magneto will likely end up being an Uber Eats driver Tony Stark didn't tip.

Edited by comicwriter on Sep 14th 2019 at 9:50:46 AM

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#109578: Sep 14th 2019 at 9:30:30 PM

I really hope that doesn't keep being a thing. Tony's great. We know that. But he shouldn't start getting in the way of letting all these other characters build their own mythoses. It's kind of acceptable with Spider-Man because Spidey's Rogues Gallery is so well known that we know the whole "Iron Man is responsible for all of them!" bit is new and different, but it shouldn't - say - happen with Black Panther or Captain Marvel, characters whose universes and histories are only now being introduced to the audience.

The only one I'd really accept with an explicit Iron Man connection is Mandarin, for obvious reasons.

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Weirdguy149 The King Without a Kingdom from Lumiose City under development Since: Jul, 2014 Relationship Status: I'd jump in front of a train for ya!
The King Without a Kingdom
#109579: Sep 14th 2019 at 9:34:28 PM

I've said it before and I'll say it again. I think it'd be hilarious for Mandarin to come to kill Tony Stark only to come to the realization that he's been dead for about a year or two.

It's been 3000 years…
Tuckerscreator (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#109580: Sep 14th 2019 at 9:36:33 PM

wild mass guessMCU Galactus turns out to be the guy who sold strawberries to Tony Stark but was offended by how Tony refused to touch them.wild mass guess

Edited by Tuckerscreator on Sep 14th 2019 at 9:36:48 AM

chasemaddigan I'm Sad Frogerson. Since: Oct, 2011
I'm Sad Frogerson.
#109581: Sep 14th 2019 at 9:41:01 PM

I remember a joke where someone said Scott Lang was a real hero because Tony insulted him and he didn't become a crazed supervillain.

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#109582: Sep 14th 2019 at 9:42:38 PM

Speaking of, when's the last time we had an update about Ant-Man 3. I've had my heart set on Stature for ages.

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comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#109583: Sep 14th 2019 at 9:53:59 PM

Nothing official yet. Right now there's only one movie confirmed for 2022 though (Black Panther II), so it could be there. It's funny, because there are several movies Feige confirmed are in the works (Captain Marvel 2, Blade, Guardians 3 and the Fantastic Four reboot) yet we have no idea when or where they're gonna be dropped yet.

Alternatively, maybe they could fold Ant-Man and Wasp into a West Coast Avengers movie.

Edited by comicwriter on Sep 14th 2019 at 9:55:39 AM

Brandon Not a cat from Meribia Since: Jan, 2010 Relationship Status: Faithful to 2D
Not a cat
#109584: Sep 14th 2019 at 10:23:10 PM

Finding out Black Widow takes place after Civil war is kinda disappointing, as I was hoping it would be an origin story.

If I had a nickel for every film where Emma Stone falls off a balcony... I'd only have two nickels, but weird that there's two of them.
TargetmasterJoe Since: May, 2013
#109585: Sep 14th 2019 at 10:40:44 PM

[up] I thought the idea was that it'd delve into her origin while taking place after Civil War.

Actually, it just hit me. Do we have an actual synopsis for this movie?

Tuckerscreator (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#109586: Sep 14th 2019 at 10:44:18 PM

wild mass guessIn later movie appearances, Tony Stark will be played by Scarlett Johansson. And a tree.wild mass guess

Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#109587: Sep 14th 2019 at 10:54:01 PM

Tony Bark.

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unknowing from somewhere.. Since: Mar, 2014
#109588: Sep 14th 2019 at 10:57:22 PM

wild mass guessHank Pym will be mad that Stark die without beting him at something that he remake a ultron droid to show he Is superior scientist...and the ultron take overwild mass guess

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RavenWilder Raven Wilder Since: Apr, 2009
Raven Wilder
#109589: Sep 15th 2019 at 12:59:12 AM

Y'know, if they decide to do an about-face on whether Peter should be the next Iron Man, they could decide to have Tom Holland keep appearing in MCU movies, but now wearing an Iron Man suit, and no one ever addresses him by name.

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JoLuRo075 Since: Jan, 2019
#109590: Sep 15th 2019 at 7:21:13 AM

I would have liked the new Black Widow movie take place in the 2,000 as they originally said.

In fact, they could justify why Natasha of the year 2,000 looks the same age as her older version.

1-The year 1,984 was not true, Natasha received a serum that makes her age much slower and was really born much earlier.

2-The year 1,984 was true, but Natasha received a serum that causes her to suffer accelerated aging in her first 16 years, but after 16 she stops aging or ages very slowly.

alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#109592: Sep 15th 2019 at 2:26:19 PM

Source? Does that website have an actual source? Because it's another website known for sensational clickbait articles that are often wrong.

Akirakan Since: Feb, 2015 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#109593: Sep 15th 2019 at 2:33:35 PM

Yeah, that's a very clickbaity site, but that said I wouldn't be surprised if it's indeed dead. It is well known that pretty much everyone has passed on the pilot and we haven't heard from it for a while. Either remake that pilot or just drop it, which I think might be the case.

HailMuffins Since: May, 2016 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
#109594: Sep 15th 2019 at 5:23:09 PM

So link's in portuguse, but Waititi said Thor will still be the protagonist, not Jane Foster.

Waititi is a well-known troll, granted, and I can't say I'm unhappy at not having to wait until GOTG 3 for more Lebowski Odinson, but now I have even less of a clue of what kind of movie Love and Thunder wants to be.

EDIT: Link in english.

Edited by HailMuffins on Sep 15th 2019 at 9:26:26 AM

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#109595: Sep 15th 2019 at 5:56:16 PM

I mean Thor was gonna be in the movie no matter what. I don't think anyone ever said Thor would not be in the film just because Jane will also be Thor.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#109596: Sep 15th 2019 at 6:04:24 PM

Wait.

Is Thor still gonna be in Guardians 3? I was under the impression he'd be gone by the time the movie was a thing.

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TargetmasterJoe Since: May, 2013
#109597: Sep 15th 2019 at 6:06:59 PM

[up] We're not sure yet. James Gunn is preoccupied doing The Suicide Squad with WB and DC to talk about GOTG Vol. 3 right now.

I remember reading that Star-Lord might make a micro appearance in Love and Thunder, but I'm not holding my breath.

Edited by TargetmasterJoe on Sep 15th 2019 at 9:09:21 AM

TobiasDrake Queen of Good Things, Honest (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Arm chopping is not a love language!
Queen of Good Things, Honest
#109598: Sep 15th 2019 at 6:15:33 PM

I'm not expecting Jane-Thor to have much of an appearance, despite the hype. My expectation is that there will be, like, one scene where Thor powers up Jane somehow and makes her Thor for the duration of one action scene, and then she's never Thor again. And then the rest of her spot in the film is just an ill-conceived attempt at resurrecting the awful Jane/Thor romance.

If I'm wrong, I'll be pleasantly surprised. But that's what Marvel's led me to expect. Best case scenario, she's as important to the plot as Rescue's neat but completely irrelevant appearance in Endgame. Worst case, Rescue's five seconds of nothing in Iron Man 3.

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chasemaddigan I'm Sad Frogerson. Since: Oct, 2011
I'm Sad Frogerson.
#109599: Sep 15th 2019 at 6:18:25 PM

I get the feeling Love and Thunder will start with Thor going on a mission with the Guardians, only to leave by ten minute mark. Maybe he either leaves on his own accord or is kicked off because he's not gelling well with the team.

Either way, don't expect an "Asgardians of the Galaxy" movie like what the ending to Endgame promised.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: Aug, 2015
The Head of the Hydra
#109600: Sep 15th 2019 at 6:18:59 PM

Wait that sounds exactly like Iron Man 3 when Pepper had Extremis powers for that one scene at the end.

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